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Old 07-04-11, 01:46
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Wilf If you go looking for a mule you better bring cash and a trailer. Also when you look at the Mule if it is not a A5 which is made of aluminum really check it for corrosion. I bought mine from David Kelone who deals in Mules and he has all the parts, when I went looking I saw prices from $2200 to $14000. I know David Kelone has project Mules starting at $2200.
Just to tell you how useful they are, this week we had a dead M1009(Full size Chev Blazer, we hooked up the Mule to it aand with a little coaxing it moved the Blazer into the garage. The Blazer weight almost 4 times what the Mule does. My wife has threatened me with a slow death if I even think about selling the Mule. They are a great vehicle and as someone state they are the most expensive MV lb for lb but worth every cent. Gilles
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Old 07-04-11, 01:57
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When you consider what a new ATV is worth I think a mule is a far better value, pound for pound...
My Bombardier was over $12,500 new and I am sure a Mule would outdo it anytime.
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Old 07-04-11, 03:27
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They are a great vehicle and as someone state they are the most expensive MV lb for lb but worth every cent. Gilles
I think that prize would have to go to the BSA folding bicycle. In second place would be the welbike. The mule might take first place in the 4 wheel category.
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Old 07-04-11, 03:56
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thanks Gilles.....yes, I know that the A5 is the only one that has both the bed and the axles made of aluminum, with the earlier versions either magnesium construction for both, or a magnesium bed with aluminum axle housings, depending on the model...I'm leaning toward the A5, as the 4WS models seem to command a little higher premium....I've corresponded with D. Kelone, and we have a mutual friend, so I'm hoping that when I see him next weekend he will have something decent for me....he left his home in Peoria, IL on Sunday, headed for the Knob Creek shoot, and then he'll be in NJ for the MTAofNJ show, before heading to Aberdeen, MD for the swap meet there...I've spent time on my friend's A5, and think it is a great machine...I don't expect it to keep up with ATV's on the trail, due to a lack of suspension, but it certainly will be ideal for what I intend to use it for, which is back in the bush at my place or as transportation for parts, etc. at the swap meets....I'll keep the group posted as to what I come home with, if anything...Gilles, does your A5 have a cover in the deck beside the operator, so you can reach down through the deck and change from 4WS to 2WS?...I just wondered, seeing as it would be a modification, as the A5's were all 2WS....W
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Old 07-04-11, 12:04
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There is a cover beside the drive and it is to used to mount various weapons as well you can get to the steering linkage. Now Mules are either 2WS or 4WS and you cannot switch 4WS on and off. You have it or you don't. According to David Kelone converting to 4WS is relatively simple.
Also a very important point, make sure you get the access panels for the engine and the round front panel, these panel are very hard to find and worth gold, at shows David told me that if I leave the Mule unattended remove the covers or chain them and always remove them during transport. I usually tie wrap them in place when the Mule is in the yard.
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Old 08-04-11, 00:45
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Hi Gilles....all M274's except the A5 models were both 2 wheel and 4 wheel steer....the rectangular access panel beside the operator, on all models except the 2WS A5, could be removed to access the lock pin and lock stop on the front axle housing.....with the lock pin removed from the rear steering shaft, the mule would steer both front and rear axles, with the rear steer shaft pinned to the lock stop on the front axle, only the front axle would steer, as referenced in the 1967 dated mule operator's manual....if you go onto the G503 site and go to the M274 area, one of the first topics covered is installing a rear steer kit onto an A5 and at the end of the article it's mention that a stop was still to be fitted to lock out the rear steer shaft.....Wilf
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Old 08-04-11, 01:22
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Did he buy a M1010 or is he going to look at one. We are putting up our M1010 ambulance for sale. It is complete all repainted, excellent tires safetied and licenced for the road. Gilles
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Old 08-04-11, 02:43
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Gilles, he bought it when we went down a few weeks ago to look at it....do you have any pictures of cab interior and ambulance body interior?....also, what is the price?....was it in service here or in U.S.?.....W
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You will not get a 106rr into Canada, good luck finding one here.
Depending on the level of restoration done, it is not hard to get up to those numbers.
I imagine when mine is done it will be in the $10,000 range but it will be a total overhaul with all NOS parts.
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1966 M274A2 Mule BMY USMC
1966 M274A2 Mule BMY USMC
1958 M274 Mule Willys US Army
1970 M38A1 CDN3 70-08715 1 CSR
1943 Converto Airborne Trailer
1983 M1009 CUCV
1957 Triumph TRW 500cc

RT-524, PRC-77s,
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As of right now mine is doing ok, it has about 10 hours on it since being completely overhauled, has one small leak in the PS front Knuckle
but otherwise all is well and working good, it is a M274 a5 with 4 wheel Steer, and pull start, regular tires and a army paint scheme.

http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u...2/DSCN0576.jpg

http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u...2/DSCN0572.jpg

http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u...2/DSCN0574.jpg

http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u...2/DSCN0544.jpg

hope you can see those by clicking on them, should give you a Idea.
Has new Jugs Pistons, all gears checked and new or good parts, New Engine Guard and gas tank, all primed and painted etc. (details can
be given and show on photos if needed for those interested), lots more done but not listed.

They are a great piece of kit, and when I drive it I tend to smile a lot, so does my son who has now learned to shift because of it.
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Old 29-08-12, 12:25
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Carolle and I will be bringing our Mule to Coe Hill this weekend, we will bring it up in the back of our M1009. Rides will be offered. We installed a second seat on the Mule, beside the driver to give rides and to park my butt while Carolle drives.
We took the rear seat from an Iltis welded it to a piece of flat stock and the flat stock is bolted to the side rails using existing holes. It can be removed in a minute, the side rail also doubles as a panic hold bar.
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We installed a second seat on the Mule, beside the driver to give rides and to park my butt while Carolle drives.
We took the rear seat from an Iltis welded it to a piece of flat stock and the flat stock is bolted to the side rails using existing holes. It can be removed in a minute, the side rail also doubles as a panic hold bar.
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do you have any photos of this set up Gilles?
Sounds very interesting.

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here is the photos for those interested...






any questions let me know, I will have a rubber (Stall Matting) Mat covering
the deck at future events to make it a little easier to protect the deck surface.
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