Handbrake replacement

[gary_bath_jr]

Here's a crazy idea, not sure if it will work as I do not have the parts to test, however, is it possible to insert the short end of the U up ffrom the bottom of the hole and then rotate the bolt and push it up from the bottom? Of course this will only work if the hole is not threaded and you have to put a nut on it once in place.

Gary

[Little Jo]

Originally Posted by gary_bath_jr

Here's a crazy idea, not sure if it will work as I do not have the parts to test, however, is it possible to insert the short end of the U up ffrom the bottom of the hole and then rotate the bolt and push it up from the bottom? Of course this will only work if the hole is not threaded and you have to put a nut on it once in place.

Gary

Hi Gary

Mate, I tried everything even your idea, but to no avail as there are 3 holes the bolt passes through and I must admit cutting the small hole in the floor worked a treat, too easy.

Little Jo
Tony Van Rhoda

[Yeo.NT]

Just a observation that I have come across while working on MLVWs and this applies to all MVs. Why are the park brakes kept being replaced when in theory they are designed to hold a object stationary. Since it isn't moving there shouldn't be any wear?

[Pete Ashby]

On transmission braked systems it will almost always be due to a combination of oil contamination and over adjustment to compensate. Inevitably this becomes a self fulfilling prophecy until the whole thing either catches fire or completely fails to operate.

[Little Jo]

Originally Posted by Pete Ashby

On transmission braked systems it will almost always be due to a combination of oil contamination and over adjustment to compensate. Inevitably this becomes a self fulfilling prophecy until the whole thing either catches fire or completely fails to operate.

Pete

You are right on the button there. From what I have seen with the MB Jeep there will be constant regular ongoing work due to the original design of the transmission brake.

Have a look at the photo showing the brake linings after I removed it, there was enough oil to service my lawnmower, no wonder the hand brake did not work. The other photo shows the new bonded brake linings before I re-installed it. At the moment the transmission brake works, but for how long will be interesting.

Tony
Little Jo

[Phil Waterman]

The oil serves a purpose to prevent the brake band from rusting. Keeping the lining and band well soaked in oil or gear lub prevent failure due to rust.

But all kidding aside the, the point is if the brake is correctly adjusted and never has to be applied to stop the vehicle instead of or in aid of the regular brakes it should not wear out. They due seem to get oil soaked and if you ever drive off with the brake partially engaged it will eventually let you know it or the cars behind you will when smoke starts rolling from under the truck.

I too have done a sudden stop on the side of the road diving from the cab with fire extinguisher in hand, after seeing smoke in the rear mirrors. Looking under the truck in the smoke to hear that sizzling sound like some one cooking bacon.

No flames, so I chocked the wheels released the hand brake and sat there until the whole mess was cooled down.

Cheers Phil

[Little Jo]

Originally Posted by Phil Waterman

The oil serves a purpose to prevent the brake band from rusting. Keeping the lining and band well soaked in oil or gear lub prevent failure due to rust.

But all kidding aside the, the point is if the brake is correctly adjusted and never has to be applied to stop the vehicle instead of or in aid of the regular brakes it should not wear out. They due seem to get oil soaked and if you ever drive off with the brake partially engaged it will eventually let you know it or the cars behind you will when smoke starts rolling from under the truck.

I too have done a sudden stop on the side of the road diving from the cab with fire extinguisher in hand, after seeing smoke in the rear mirrors. Looking under the truck in the smoke to hear that sizzling sound like some one cooking bacon.

No flames, so I chocked the wheels released the hand brake and sat there until the whole mess was cooled down.

Cheers Phil

Hi Phil

Looks like from comments made there is an ongoing problem with the jeep transmission brake and I am pleased that I am not alone out here in Jeep world. I have not had the smoke from under the jeep incident yet, something to look forward too, I hope not.

There was so much oil on the linings, it was soft and mushy and beyond cleaning and drying. I replaced the oil seals before putting the brake back together and I am looking forward to a nice long drive to see what transpires.

This will have to wait until after I next Monday, that is when my jeep is booked into the government garage for all their checks. If the vehicle is passed I can then obtain my registraion disk and legally drive on the road. I just hope they keep an open mind and remembber the Jeep in 68 years old and not modern technology.

Cheers

Tony
Little Jo