2011 at the Hammond Barn

[RHClarke]

Not much to report. Saturday was chilly but sunny. A good day for some interior economy. Bob and Grant puttered around the barn and the back field looking for accelerator linkage parts. I went through all of my spare parts in the shed and tried to improve the organization of the parts. I was quite surprised at the number of Ford parts I have laying about. They have to go...Later in the morning, the boys headed off to Embrun to visit the machine shop and to take in some lunch.

While they were away, I test fit the driver side door to the 45 HUP. There is an issue with the hinges - when the hinges are installed, the door won't shut. As previously mentioned, I think there were some assumptions made by the chaps who repaired my door and now the hinges do not fit properly.

Rather than tear apart a very nice 45 HUP door, I've decided to modify the hinges. I am not yet sure if I will have to lengthen the door side hinge arm or the frame side hinge arm. Time will tell.

As time was running out, I headed back to the barn to sweep out a winter's worth of dirt, mud, dust and sand. Not satisfied with that, I cleaned off the work bench and side shelf, which had become laden with parts from many small winter projects. Then, it was back to Ottawa. Funny thing, I was sure I could hear swearing coming from the direction of Hammond while I driving home.

[Phil Waterman]

Hi Rob

I think by now all most all CMP hinges are bent from a little to unusable. On my two Pattern 13s I resorted to making wedge shape shims that fit between the door post and the hinge. Using these I was able to get the doors into proper alignment.

Picture below is of the drivers side top hinge on my HUP shims have been in since 1978 when you look close they are not as pretty as they could be. When I reassemble the HUP plan to make new ones that will follow the shape of the hinge lip.

I'll take a picture of the shims alone and post it.

The next step would be to make new hinges which I think can be done. On my Pattern 12 the hinges were so shot that making them was the only way to have doors that opened. Whats on the 12 Cab now work well but need to work on making them look more original.

Cheers Phil

[RHClarke]

Originally Posted by Phil Waterman

Hi Rob I think by now all most all CMP hinges are bent from a little to unusable. On my two Pattern 13s I resorted to making wedge shape shims that fit between the door post and the hinge.

Hi Phil,

As usual, you come up with such elegant and workable solutions! I'll try the shim solution this coming weekend. Bob had mentioned the possibility of shimming up the hinges, but I was fixated on how to shimmy the door side hinge, and couldn't see how it could be done. Just another example of not seeing the forest for the trees.

[Brian Gough]

Hi Phil & Rob,

Any thoughts on worn hinge pins being (at least) part of the sloppy fit problem?

Brian

[Phil Waterman]

Originally Posted by Brian Gough

Hi Phil & Rob,

Any thoughts on worn hinge pins being (at least) part of the sloppy fit problem?

Brian

Good point Brian, and there is a simple easy solution, Chevy didn't change its pins or the T head bushing I've found them at the local auto parts store. If some body knows the year cross over that would help. But I just took an old pin and one of the bushings and had no problems.

I'll have to check all the hinges on my HUP to see if after 30 years they need to be replaced again, if they do I'll post the parts number once I find it.


Cheers Phil

[RHClarke]

Originally Posted by Brian Gough

Hi Phil & Rob, Any thoughts on worn hinge pins being (at least) part of the sloppy fit problem? Brian

Originally Posted by Phil Waterman

Good point Brian, and there is a simple easy solution, Chevy didn't change its pins or the T head bushing I've found them at the local auto parts store. If some body knows the year cross over that would help. But I just took an old pin and one of the bushings and had no problems.
I'll have to check all the hinges on my HUP to see if after 30 years they need to be replaced again, if they do I'll post the parts number once I find it.
Cheers Phil

Brian and Phil, Yes, the pins have some wear on them, but that wear is not the problem. When the hinges are bolted to the door and the truck frame, the door does not have the proper clearance at the hinge end to close. I am not sure that I am communicating the problem clearly, so I will take photos next trip to the barn.

I have a good stash of pins thanks to a previous purchase, but do lack the bushings. Phil, I am looking forward to your posting of the bushing part number and the parts source(s)?

Thanks, R

[Brian Gough]

Hi Phil & Rob,

Thank you both for your replies.

The pins I got from Dirk Leegwater (LWD Parts) were:

CHEV / CAN LV7 / G.M.C.
32- 4023559
PIN, HINGE


Brian