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Here are the pics of a Cnd one. Bruce Parker and I came to the conclusion that these may have been added at some point late in the Mk1* production or done as an "add on" sometime after.
Pics are from the ebay auction.
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Jordan Baker RHLI Museum, Otter LRC C15A-Wire3, 1944 Willys MB, 1942 10cwt Canadian trailer |
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hi, That ebay one shows the goose neck and 3/4" conduit which is correct, but is that a true canadian carrier light fitting?. Anyone got any other images of the correct canadian type?.
kev.
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2pdr Tank Hunter Universal Carrier 1942 registered 11/11/2008. 3" Mortar Universal Carrier 1943 registered 06/06/2009. 1941 Standard Mk1 stowage Carrier, Caunter camo. 1941 Standard Mk1 stowage Carrier, light stone. 10 cwt wartime mortar trailer. 1943 Mk2 Daimler Dingo. 1943 Willys MB. 1936 Vickers MG carrier No1 Mk1 CMM 985. |
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The Canadian Carrier lamp is the same type fitted to Cab 11/12 CMPs:
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Kevin and Richard: I can send it over for a spell I suppose. I'll PM you later Kevin.
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This photo is from Derks website, its the same as the old one i had on my MK2* on the rear
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Shaun Hindle Morris C8 Ford GPW jeep 1945 Morris 1000 (ex mil) SAS LSV Harley Davidson MT 350 motor cycle Universal carrier MK 1*1943 Ronson (under restoration) Universal carrier MK 2* 1944 (Puddle Jumper HSK 345) Ferret MK 1/1 1956 Ferret MK 2/4 1958 CVR(T) Scorpion 432 MK2 Daimler MK1 armoured car 1943 (winner best wheeled armour W&P show 2011) Daimler Dingo MK2 1944 (awaiting restoration, aquired 11/12/2011) Fordson WOT 3 D 1940 (awaiting restoration ) |
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I removed the bracket, straightened it up, and gave it a quick spray. I also repaired one broken weld. It came out reasonable. It was hard to tell is it was 100% if the angle is correct, but I put a bend on the feet which would point the lamp down wards. Tomorrow I'll make a drawing of it for someone who asked, then prepare to mail the lamp overseas. Quite frankly, it is a fairly simple bracket once it's straightened out. I'll post the drawing and you fellows from the old world can decide if you want to borrow the original or can live with the drawing.
Looking at the various Ford CMP truck parts manuals I cannot find the proper lamp portions that matches the carrier parts. Note the tail light is a mix of carrier part numbers and truck part numbers. My truck parts manuals seem to skip around parts ID' as C01Q-13422, and 13423, although a number of the parts listed in the carrier manual are relevant to the truck lamp shown in my photos. Also a stock truck tail lamp will not fit in the hole. The hole would have to be made larger to accommodate it. Anyway, here are some shots of the restored bracket and the small clip to hold the cable in place. Even the clip is dated and has a part number on it. Unfortunately I broke the little #2 cheeshead screw that holds it in place. I recall finding the bracket and switch for this lamp before as well. It was bolted onto the top edge of the axle armour plate. Last edited by rob love; 16-02-11 at 16:57. |
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jordan do you reckon that fitting on the end is original ? it kinda looks household but having never seen one i cant say yey or ney ?
here is the images from the parts catalogue pages 352 and 353 Mk1* ![]() ![]() Mk2* ![]() ![]()
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is mos redintegro __5th Div___46th Div__ 1942 Ford Universal Carrier No.3 MkI* Lower Hull No. 10131 War Department CT54508 (SOLD) 1944 Ford Universal Carrier MkII* (under restoration). 1944 Morris C8 radio body (under restoration). Last edited by RichardT10829; 12-02-11 at 16:55. |
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Your last picture you posted shows this part. The part # ends with a "B" so there was probably more then one kind of light socket. This picture looks more like the CMP rear diff light. But again that would make sense as the CMP trucks moved away from the rubber housing to metal housings for the tail lights.
As for the light socekt. Yes it looks original. The socket is the same style as my original tail lamp.
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Jordan Baker RHLI Museum, Otter LRC C15A-Wire3, 1944 Willys MB, 1942 10cwt Canadian trailer |
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I have one stamped with the "B-WD-AFI" which is the same as one in your picture Kevin, but it is different.
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Bluebell Carrier Armoured O.P. No1 Mk3 W. T84991 Carrier Bren No2.Mk.I. NewZealand Railways. NZR.6. Dodge WC55. 37mm Gun Motor Carriage M6 Jeep Mb #135668 So many questions.... |
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Yours is the Butler lamp and Kevin's parts list is showing a Lucas, like a lot of British wartime vehicles, they could have either makes when in service ( same with head, side and tail lamps).
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I think the bulb holder in Jordans middle picture is the same as the one in the early rubber tail light.
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Bluebell Carrier Armoured O.P. No1 Mk3 W. T84991 Carrier Bren No2.Mk.I. NewZealand Railways. NZR.6. Dodge WC55. 37mm Gun Motor Carriage M6 Jeep Mb #135668 So many questions.... |
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Hi, From the pictures richard has supplied, CO1UC 100145 BODY CONVOY LAMP. Here are some. So this is what the canadian lens end cover looks like.
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2pdr Tank Hunter Universal Carrier 1942 registered 11/11/2008. 3" Mortar Universal Carrier 1943 registered 06/06/2009. 1941 Standard Mk1 stowage Carrier, Caunter camo. 1941 Standard Mk1 stowage Carrier, light stone. 10 cwt wartime mortar trailer. 1943 Mk2 Daimler Dingo. 1943 Willys MB. 1936 Vickers MG carrier No1 Mk1 CMM 985. |
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