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Old 20-09-10, 23:22
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i must agreee with Lynn. i have been through the parts and service books and there is no mention of the regular sprockets being superseeded by these... most likely they have come from the loyd or perhaps a vickers light tank ? / T16.....not a universal carrier though.....of course i am known for being incorrect...
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Old 21-09-10, 01:59
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There would be a lot more work and expense to produce them. Vickers light tank is a good thought.
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Old 21-09-10, 02:06
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I meant to take the paint off of the part numbers this last weekend so I could post them. There are definitely some stamped numbers on them. I will take some pics tonight. Lynn, I think your right about my worn out track but my lack of experience keeps me from telling if too warn out. Anyway I will probably "Run What I Brung" at the expense of the next set of sprockets. Actually you can tell by counting track links cant you? I forgot about that.
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Old 21-09-10, 08:18
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The general rule as i understand it is if the tracks are down to 160 links...its time to change them out....sprockets would be changed at this point.... I know people who run with less links and they dont have any issues..... the tracks tend to lean over when they are caput... if you look at the rear of the carrier square on (with the tracks on and correctly tensioned) you may see that the tracks lean in towards the diff...or the opposite way depending on what has been done with the tracks..

if i may offer my two penneth....i would run the tracks and sprockets you have to start with until you can find more new track or sprockets etc. i would be inclined not to put new sprockets onto old worn track as you will dessimate the sprocket and finish the track off even faster.

just an option buddy.....


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Old 21-09-10, 09:09
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Those are the same sprockets i have on my MK2 * - i have the same on one of my spare axles as well. Yours sprockets are not that worn, they came out of the factory with fairly narrow teethon that pattern sprocket. also the general rule is that one pair of sprockets will last two sets of tracks (im sure thats in one of the manuels as well)
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Old 21-09-10, 17:14
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I ground the paint off and the number reads Ford 44 CTL 3626-F. Thanks for the opinions Shaun and Richard.
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Old 21-09-10, 17:36
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well al be....... 3626F is the replacement sprocket.. it appears there were 4 prior types A - F how did i miss that the first time.... it is not listed on the exploded diagram i have but is listed in the FUC-03 page 8 right there in black and white !..


so to sum up it is a late production sprocket and was to be used once all the other (ABCDE) had been depleated it is a carrier sprocket designed for use on the universal Mk1* and Mk2* so I was right all along when i said "I am known for being incorrect"


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Old 21-09-10, 20:59
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We are ALL learners. Thanks guys
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Old 23-09-10, 21:17
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The general rule as i understand it is if the tracks are down to 160 links...its time to change them out....sprockets would be changed at this point.... I know people who run with less links and they dont have any issues..... the tracks tend to lean over when they are caput... if you look at the rear of the carrier square on (with the tracks on and correctly tensioned) you may see that the tracks lean in towards the diff...or the opposite way depending on what has been done with the tracks..

Richie
Hi Richard,
According to the manual you start with 168 links (8 pieces of standard 21 links) and a new sprocket. After a run in period of 50 to a 100 miles the teeth mesh properly with the track and you remove 1 link. After that you can remove 10 more links and the useful life of track and sprocket are over. So 157 is the lowest limit of links. My Mk2* still has 163 links in them and the tracks lean in to the hull on both sides. I think they always lean in. I noticed this on more Carriers if my memory is correct.

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Old 24-09-10, 00:59
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I would guess that this "rimmed" sprocket, was introduced to help the track chain run a little better to try to alleviate this uneven wear. The book says that the track should be removed, and the sides balanced. This might include swapping the track from one side to the other, to get optimum life from it.
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Old 24-09-10, 09:45
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Hi Lyn,
We had track support rings here in Australia that were fitted to our later carriers, they bolt onto both sides of the sprockets and give a much wider area of support I always fit them to my carriers, I reckon they must take a lot of weight off the ends of the sprockets, Regards Ron.
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Old 24-09-10, 10:14
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Can you show us a picture?
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