CFR Request Thread

[Scott Bentley]

Originally Posted by Mike Baker

Good evening,

I just bought an M38A1 CDN 2 at an estate sale, and am hoping to find something of its history. The S/N on the data plate is 96887, which I am assuming would make it 710596887. Delivery and inspection dates were both December 1967. According to ramtank.ca, that S/N was assigned CFR 67-07840.

I will likely post some photos in a different thread when I get it home tomorrow or Friday, but I think I struck a pot of gold with this one. It's been sitting in the guy's garage for 10+ years, but flashed-up almost immediately when some new gas was added to the tank. Engine has a re-build tag from 1978. It has very little rust, is still painted in the CF camoflage pattern, came with all of the canvas including the grille cover, and even a bright red arctic hard top! The lights even work. Only things missing that I can see are the winch, the shovel from under the hood, the wiper arms and the fire extinguisher.

If only my wife was as happy as I am!

CFR Information
CFR No 07840
CFR Year 1967
Serial No 7105-96887
Actual ECC 121201
Authorized ECC 121201
NSN
ERN 30103
Holding Unit 0122
DA Unit 0122
Date Acquired 01-Jan-67
Cost 0
Alloc Code MA
Comm Suite
Current VMO DP356702 - 22-Sep-86
HN Date 05-Mar-87
Pending? No
Disposed? Yes
Disposal Date 03-Feb-87

VMO History for CFR Number : 07840
VMO Type Pending To ECC To AC To HUIC To DA UIC
DP356702 - 22-Sep-86 REGUL No 121201 MA 0122 0122 CFB CHILLIWACK

Last maintenance record was dated 7 Mar 85, performed by CFB Chilliwack with 83013 miles/kms on the Odometer.

[Mike Baker]

VMO History for CFR Number : 07840
VMO Type Pending To ECC To AC To HUIC To DA UIC
DP356702 - 22-Sep-86 REGUL No 121201 MA 0122 0122 CFB CHILLIWACK

Last maintenance record was dated 7 Mar 85, performed by CFB Chilliwack with 83013 miles/kms on the Odometer.

Do the maintenance records give any indication of which unit it belonged to at Chilliwack? I suppose it could even have belonged to one of the Militia units in Vancouver and just been serviced in Chilliwack.

Also - how likely is it that the recorded mileage is incorrect? Is there a mileage given for the previous service? Reason I ask is that the current mileage is 59,717 and it has been sitting under a tarp in a guy's garage in Cobble Hill since at least 1988. And I doubt it did 77,000 miles in 2 1/2 years!

Lastly, the engine has a rebuild tag from 1978. It was done by a company called Eastern Rebuilders in Bedford, Quebec, which is a short drive southwest of Farnham and near St. Jean. Would it have been just the engine that was out east or was the whole Jeep out there in the '70s?

Thank you very much for your assistance with this - the more info I have, the easier it will be to convince ICBC to register it in my name.

Mike

[rob love]

Back in those days there would have been a national contract to overhaul the engines. Eastern had the contract for a while, later it was Bennet and Hanson. Earlier than that it was 202 Workshop. Engines were traded out fairly often on the fleet, especially as they neared that magic 35,000 mile mark.

[Scott Bentley]

Originally Posted by Mike Baker

Do the maintenance records give any indication of which unit it belonged to at Chilliwack? I suppose it could even have belonged to one of the Militia units in Vancouver and just been serviced in Chilliwack.

Also - how likely is it that the recorded mileage is incorrect? Is there a mileage given for the previous service? Reason I ask is that the current mileage is 59,717 and it has been sitting under a tarp in a guy's garage in Cobble Hill since at least 1988. And I doubt it did 77,000 miles in 2 1/2 years!

Mike

Mike, as I have mentioned in some earlier posts in this thread, I suspect that the odometer readings on some vehicles have been converted from miles to Km in the database. In your case, if you convert the last entry from Km to miles, it comes in at a much more reasonable 53000 miles. Two of my 3 M151s were this way also.

With regards to units, generally the logs will have unit names if they belonged to one. In the case of Chilliwack back in the day, there would have been 1 CER or the DMER pool. CFSME and CFOCS generally shared the Base Tpt fleet. I suspect yours would have been used by either of these schools as all of the logs indicate either Base Maintenance or ASU Chilliwack.

[Mike Baker]

Awesome - thanks for the info. Obviously I'm new at this!

Mike