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Old 27-06-10, 21:46
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I'm in Canada, and found them in a MK1 I have. I wasn't able to see any paint on them, just can't seem to get a close-up with the old Olympus I have. Phil
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Old 28-06-10, 03:09
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The headstamp on the cases would indicate that they are in fact from MK Vll Ball Round. Anything other than Ball used a letter code to indicate what it was. If you look at your grenade launching blanks Rick, they should have the letter L in the headstamp.
The DA part of the headstamp indicates who they were made by. In this case it is Dominion I think which was Canadian.
If they were definitely rosette crimped, they must have been reprocessed cases but in that case should also have been re-identified.
The staining half way up the case I think is just that, a stain, if it was on both then it would mean something.
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Old 28-06-10, 05:06
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I could have googled Bellville, but theres probably more than one around the world. Any way it helps to know where you posting from.Thanks for the heads up.
I take it, that your carrier is a MkI* (Canadian)then, as apposed to a MkI which is British built. (I've wondered if there are any British carriers in Canada.) Not many british ones seem to have survived anywhere.
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Old 28-06-10, 05:36
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David,
You might be right, but my ballistites don't have L on them anywhere.
I'm attaching a few photos for ID purposes. You will see why I thought Phil's was a ballistite from the colouring of the cartridge.
Regards Rick.
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1941 F60L Cab12
1943 Ford Lynx
1942 Bren Gun Carrier VR no.2250
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Old 28-06-10, 08:26
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As you point out, the ballistite catridges are not rossette crimped. it is only the blanks that are crimped.
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Carrier Armoured O.P. No1 Mk3 W. T84991
Carrier Bren No2.Mk.I. NewZealand Railways. NZR.6.
Dodge WC55. 37mm Gun Motor Carriage M6
Jeep Mb #135668
So many questions....
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Old 28-06-10, 13:19
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I wasn't quite right with the letter code Rick. H is the code for Grenade Launcher Blanks. I have a breakdown of the codes somewhere but am having to rely on unreliable memory. The letter Z in the identification code indicates nitrocellulose propellant. The MF identifies the Melbourne Footscray factory. If it was Maribyrnong it would be MG.
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Old 29-06-10, 00:25
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David, I said when you became an MLU member that you would bring a wealth of information to our forum. Well I wasn't wrong. Thanks for that info. I certainly am learning from you.
Regards Rick.
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Saracen Mk1(?)
25pdr. 1940 Weir No.266
25pdr. Australian Short No.185 (?)
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