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Old 12-05-10, 15:22
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Chaps,
I've been costing up for a restoration project.... which brought up a question about tracks. Does anyone know if reproduction or NOS track links and pins are available and what are the costs likely to be? On a final note does anyone know of a Mk1 for sale? I saw one on a dealer site but it has gone now.... I know who to, it is coming to the UK, not me though :-(
Hi Ajmac, wow your other half sounds great! very supportive- think we're all in similar boats/ UC's there I agree with other folks here that there's huge expense singly but maybe as a group.... similar vein discussion over on the thread regarding wheels
http://www.mapleleafup.org/forums/sh...ad.php?t=14122
The idea of new track sounds great- even allowing for the heavy toll of road/ hard surface wear, if we all mostly do low mileage per year, won't a new set still last MANY years just as our current ones have?? even having a source of new track link SETS maybe might reduce the cost a little- what do you guys think?? If most of the cost is the inital mold setting up, then if we pool our resources....???
thanks again for y'all taking part in such an EXCELLENT forum!
David, a newbie from Ireland, (mk2)
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Old 12-05-10, 17:26
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as per the other thread which is on the same lines, i would be willing to chip in with the many to have a mould made, but the problems i can potentially see are

who retains the completed mould ?

what can be put in place to prevent the mould being held to ransome by any one person or firm who want the business regardless if it could be made cheaper elsewhere ?

with these things its very much down to trust, i would be willing to take the step but there would have to be a clear published agreement of the terms and conditions to those that chip in so to speak.
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Old 12-05-10, 18:28
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I agree, but guess there's nothing we can't sort out together- where there's a will, there's a way, etc....
I might suggest if a mould were to be made, those chipping in would need to agree their "initial" order, check the supplier would be happy to proceed on the terms agreed (ie X price for Y sets of track of Z size to persons A,B,C etc) and if everyone agreed to that, then the mould cost might be moot- whether it's retained by the company, or one of the forum members but with a clear agreement anyone of the initial group can use it again- remembering of course that moulds don't last forever and I suspect can "fail" at any time.... Anyone any thoughts/ counter/better suggestions?
(there's ALWAYS better than mine )
Good discussion to be having
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Old 12-05-10, 19:00
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hi fella's

the track discussion has come up before and my first thought was china but there could be a problem with quality control, other than that it would have to be a local foundry and if the cost of machining was too high why not do it yourself, you'd need a pillar drill and a jig and some buggar willing to work for £30 a day for cash and you'd have your tracks in a couple of weeks (possibly). seems simple enough but then things often do until you start digging a little deeper but let's face it someone sometime is gonna have to bite the bullet and go down the new track route it's just a matter of time.

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Old 12-05-10, 19:15
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We could do with merging parts of these threads together! I'll continue on this one due to the title!
I'm on to it.... when I get a good original as a pattern I'll get a quote, I've posed the question already.... watch this space. Depanding on the quote I'll consider stumping up the set-up costs and offering the track 'ready to fit', fag packet calculation shows it isn't going to be cheap as there are so many links for an entire carrier one of the reasons why no one has done it before.... perhaps. I dread to think how much the new Sherman track from Albert Steenman (sp?)
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Old 12-05-10, 22:18
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pretty sure it was £10k for a set of new sherman tracks if memory serves me right, i think £3k for the carrier would be about right but then again when there are no more tracks left you'll have no choice, so maybe better that enthusiasts get together and work something out as opposed to a dealer doing it making a living out of us.
alistair i know where there are two t16's for sale from the same guy in the midlands, i had a look at them a couple of month back, let me know if you're interested and i'll fill you in on a couple of interesting details.

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Old 12-05-10, 23:35
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better that enthusiasts get together and work something out as opposed to a dealer doing it making a living out of us
Yup - some dealers really don't do it for a love of the hobby, but lets not get into that.
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Old 13-05-10, 09:20
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pretty sure it was £10k for a set of new sherman tracks if memory serves me right,

eddy

Try 25,000 Euros. Joop Staman has invested a huge sum of money to prototype and produce new Sherman tracks which include end connectors and wedgebolts. there have been problems, all of which he has had to pay for before he can sell any and there is no guarantee of how many sets he will sell. It makes carrier track look like childs play.

I doubt anyone here would do the same for the love of the hobby!
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