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Old 12-05-10, 13:08
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went into local DVLA office in my best suite and they have authorised Nigel to provide a letter, they asked "does he know what he is talking about" i pulled out his books and got "Oh bloody hell yes he does", it was frustrating as the DVLA are so hit and miss, they began to tell me i needed an MOT until i corrected them, i got the we will speak with VOSA so i handed them my phone and said here ring em they are on my speed dial..... needless to say you dont need an MOT so dont be duped into trying to get one !

all you need is:-
* The letter for proof of age and proof of vehicle type,
* A certificate of insurance (you have to use the hull numbers for this)
* Completed form V55/5
* Completed form VAT14 (prove i have paid duty on the vehicle as its an import)
* £55.00 admin fee

and Voila.

cheers folks

Richie

PS do NOT try and Bullsh** them, do NOT try and pass the vehicle off as something it is not, be candid and honest but firm with it, as a military vehicle it falls to so many more exemptions than regular vehicles do. you wont get penalised for it having a military backround, however for those with the big stuff, MBT.s , CVRT's, or any vehicle with a main gun, you must also provide with the above a valid DEMIL certificate for any armament that the vehicle is fitted with. There were rumours circulating that the tracks need to be modified to conform, this is not true both the pitch and contact ground presure are well within the legal guidelines. I have confirmed this with VOSA.

in the case of DEMIL certs this would be a case of carrying your Certs for brens / boys etc with you when you go to shows, but these are not needed to register the machine as they are not permemantly fixed to / or form part of the machine itself, more a mandatory ancilliary har har har
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1944 Morris C8 radio body (under restoration).

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Old 12-05-10, 13:23
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I think the staff at this centre have broken their own rules accepting Nigels letter but as anyone knows who has tried to register a vehicle, most of the staff do not know what they are doing when it comes to historic vehicles.

This can either work to your advantage or otherwise.
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Old 12-05-10, 16:00
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And why is it that I can't tax my Morris Commercial on line? It falls into the 'historic vehicle over 3500kg, MOT exempt category'....and yet Computer says NO! I then have to go to my local Post Office and explain the situation or visit DVLA themselves. Ron
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Old 12-05-10, 16:08
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If you are not already using it Ron there is a MOT excemption self-certification form which you can down load from the DVLA web site.

You just tick the appropriate category under which you are claiming exemption and just hand it in at the post office with the renewal application. No hassle.

The last time I did my carrier the counter clerk tried to give the form back to me with my tax disc and it was only after I explained presumably they are returned to the DVLA she decided to keep it.

I am sure other can provide a link to this form.
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Old 12-05-10, 16:55
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I think the staff at this centre have broken their own rules accepting Nigels letter but as anyone knows who has tried to register a vehicle, most of the staff do not know what they are doing when it comes to historic vehicles.

This can either work to your advantage or otherwise.
possibly...infact nope you are right..... but as i pointed out to the DVLA your average MVT rep is not going to have a clue what he or she is looking at on these machines, they are not after all a common piece here in the UK and lets face it Nigel is not just some bloke who likes tanks he is a published author on the subject, basically in legal terms he could be called to court as a profesional witness on the subject of carriers. this fits him neatly into the "acceptable" category at the DVLA.... perhaps my suit was so pursuasive they jsut melted in ore and accepted what i was saying

either way, i am happy that Nige has been accepted, and that he has agreed to evaluate my carrier and write a letter of his findings


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Old 12-05-10, 23:23
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i know what hes going to say mate, rusty box looking thing would mkae for a good skip and a pile of scrap lol sorry thats what your other halfs prob thinking
Nigels going to say wow hidden treasure....

He will be blown away with how much work you have done and when you show him the chassie/ hull numbers you have found that will be it job done you will be the proud owner of a original mk1 canadian carrier hahahaha

see you on sunday matey
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Old 13-05-10, 09:09
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hahahaha is "Peggy Sue" comming along too
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1944 Morris C8 radio body (under restoration).
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Old 13-05-10, 09:27
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PS do NOT try and Bullsh** them, do NOT try and pass the vehicle off as something it is not, be candid and honest but firm with it, as a military vehicle it falls to so many more exemptions than regular vehicles do. you wont get penalised for it having a military backround, however for those with the big stuff, MBT.s , CVRT's, or any vehicle with a main gun, you must also provide with the above a valid DEMIL certificate for any armament that the vehicle is fitted with. There were rumours circulating that the tracks need to be modified to conform, this is not true both the pitch and contact ground presure are well within the legal guidelines. I have confirmed this with VOSA.
That is the best advice. They are civil servants and will usually respond well to firm instruction!
The bit about demil certs for the gun is more rubbish I'm afraid. That is of no concern to DVLA or VOSA. If they told you that, it was another attempt at being difficult.

There is a maximum ground pressure allowed for tracked vehicles and though carriers are well inside it, many tanks aren't, depending on which track is fitted. There is also a 20mph speed limit for all tracked vehicles on british roads.
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Old 13-05-10, 13:31
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Yes Neal. This year my Post Office were helpful enough to produce this MOT exemption form and even offered to fill it in. BUT! there is no category for Historic Vehicles....WHY? and WHY is it not on the computer anyway? Ron
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