2010 at the Hammond Barn

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Sunday was a beautiful day for a drive - only a so-so day for getting stick in the mud however.

Richard and I got there first and he topped jup the tank with some fresh gas as the old stuff had been sitting for at least 8 months.



The batteries were both dead so, when Stuart arrived, we towed the Iltis to a spot closer to Mecca - I mean, the barn.

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After charging the batteries we were (almost) certain that the Iltis would start up if it stalled, Richard had his first chance to get behind the wheel and try it out since he bought it at Christmas. I got in to provide ballast.



We ran through a couple of mud holes but, on the way back to Mecca - I mean, the barn - we got stuck up to the axles. Fortunately, Booby and his trusty tractor towed us out. In order to ensure that the Law name didn't die out I let Richard continue without me as passenger.

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Thanks to Bob for moral support, towing service, gratuitous advice, almost funny commentary and generally fulfilling his host role. Special thanks to Stuart for coming out and showing Richard and I all sorts of things about the Uglis - I mean, Iltis.

Here is Stuart's baby.

[Stuart Fedak]

Originally Posted by servicepub

Thanks to Bob for moral support, towing service, gratuitous advice, almost funny commentary and generally fulfilling his host role. Special thanks to Stuart for coming out and showing Richard and I all sorts of things about the Uglis - I mean, Iltis.

It was a pleasure seeing Richard give his baby Iltis it's first mud bath. Now I know the pride Shrek felt.......

My 85 Iltis also enjoyed doing what it does best, playing in the dirt (wet and dry)..........

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Cheers!

Stuart

[Bob Carriere]

... of me getting stuck with a M37...... when I was younger of course.

There was a mud or bleu clay hole at the bottom of la Montee Payment in Gatineau..... we would go there with other 4x4 for the sole purpose of getting stuck....!!!

Nice to watch some one else do it now !!!!! NOT sure if it is wisdom or lazyness.....

Thanks for the memories Richard.

Boob

[Bob Carriere]

Got a real sniff of CFS today.....

Can't Find Shit...... Do you guys know where I have carefully put away my NOS air filter for my truck.......

Boob

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Originally Posted by Bob Carriere

Got a real sniff of CFS today.....

Can't Find Shit...... Do you guys know where I have carefully put away my NOS air filter for my truck.......

Boob

I see you are suffering a CRAFT moment - Can't Remember A F@#$%^ing Thing!

[Bob Carriere]

With nothing else to do tonite I decided to see if the old Chev would fire up after sleeping all Winter......

So off I went with a can of ..... as Alec puts it..... Start you bastard spray can.... now the battery has wintered in the tray for the last 5 months... a few squirts.... and a few more...... and by Geez she parked to life.... with the usual blue smoke until the cylinders cleaned themsleves up...... drove around the barn and all over the front lawn and up and down the ditches...... worked great........ my cheeks hurts from grinning..... my ass to as the ditch was rough.

Now without MLU I would not be able to brag and share my happiness.....

Boob
PS... hope I never grown up!!!!

[Bob Carriere]

I was practicing retiring last Sunday....

Mounted 3 tires on my cleaned up rim using my home made tool.......

First tire I buggered up the thread on the 3/4 in rods ...first of all I was mounting a used tire on a salvaged rim to be used only as a "Yard tire/rim" due to a missing stud. The rim had not been sandblasted and painted so more surface resistance. Anyways I destroyed all four 9 inch long 3/4 inch threaded rods...... thread had severe galling....also rod had no lubricant.

Got new 3/4 grade 8 equivalent rod and new grade 8 nuts and rewelded everyting. This time I used never seize on the thread and the rims had been properly cleaned and painted slick black...... tires went on like a hot knife in butter...... used the brand new nuts from Australia...with lub..... waht a delight.

....and even had time to drive my rolling chassis around the back field...

Boob

[RHClarke]

Originally Posted by Bob Carriere

...used the brand new nuts from Australia...with lube..... what a delight. Boob

Oh! The fun one could have with that statement...

[Bob Carriere]

Encountered a slight technical difficulty on SUnday while driving my C15a chassis.

AS you know Rob and I have had our stock Rochester B carburators rebuilt and flow tested by the Oak brothers in TO. Both our vehicles now run so ever much better...... and they look brand new.

Well I was driving mine in the back field using just a fast idle setting when I decided to see if it would climb the steep...45 degree... pile of wood chip located in a corner of the back field. Amazing.... in low gear..low range 4x4 it went all the way up with out even hesitating or spinning...... did it a few times but chickened out going over the top has I had vision of possibly flipping over backwards and with no body/roof.... well I backed down. Did it again a few times and noticed that at a steep angle the carb was flowing raw gas ...literaly dripping gas...... not a good thing if all those fumes could collect inside the engine compartment......did not seem to affect engine performance...

I raised my problem on the Stove bolt site and CarbKing confirmed that I may have exceeded the design of the civilian Rochester B carb which is intended for flat street driving. He even commented that the W-1 may have been better designed for such extreme military activity but defenitely too small for my 261 engine. He recommended sourcing a military carburator that would have been original on a GMC 270 engine.

Phil have you had any similar experience with your new 261/Rochester combo?

Does any one know what carb I should be looking for that fits a 270 GMC...?

There is a possibility that a YF Carter ( carb ## ??) carb for a large 6 cylinder Jeep may fit the 261 CFM appetite..... the YF did have a special option for extreme tilt conditions experienced by CJ Jeeps in the 70s.

Any suggestions...comments... besides staying on flat ground.


Bob

[Bob Carriere]

This old friend of mine, which I had not seen in over 33 years found me thanks to my postings on MLU...... just can't hide.

Anyways Guy dropped by on Sunday and after a long walk through memory lane left me with a CD of old 4x4 club outings from the mid seventies..... man what a ride..... those were my Dodge years driving surplus M37 and M43.

At the risk of embarrassing myself.... something I would never do.... I will post some of the pictures....stay tuned.

In retrospect..... life as been pretty good......

Bob

[Ganmain Tony]

Very keen to see any photos Carriere Kenievel in action.

Cmon lads, keep the pictures coming - including ones of your Carbie set up Boob.

Dont be wimps with the W1. They aint that hard!!

[Phil Waterman]

Originally Posted by Bob Carriere

Encountered a slight technical difficulty on SUnday while driving my C15a chassis.

AS you know Rob and I have had our stock Rochester B carburators rebuilt and flow tested by the Oak brothers in TO. Both our vehicles now run so ever much better...... and they look brand new.

Well I was driving mine in the back field using just a fast idle setting when I decided to see if it would climb the steep...45 degree... pile of wood chip located in a corner of the back field. Amazing.... in low gear.....few times and noticed that at a steep angle the carb was flowing raw gas ...literaly dripping gas...... not a good thing if all those fumes could collect inside the engine compartment......did not seem to affect engine performance...

I raised my problem on the Stove bolt site and CarbKing confirmed that I may have exceeded the design of the civilian Rochester B carb which is intended for flat street driving. .... He recommended sourcing a military carburator that would have been original on a GMC 270 engine.

Phil have you had any similar experience with your new 261/Rochester combo?

...
Bob

Hi Bob

Interesting issue, maximum angle of operation for Rochester B Carb. First I'll have to do some checking in Chev parts book remember seeing that 261 engine was fitted in heavy 4x4 Chev trucks. I'll look to see if a different carb or float setting is listed.

I have another NOS B Carb on the shelf I'll hook it up to the electric fuel pump and see what happens at various angles. Problem may be something stupid like that the current electric fuel pumps put out a little more pressure than the stock manual pumps as originally equipped. I'll check numbers but I think it is putting out 2-3 PSI more than needed.

Did discover something that you may want to take into consideration if you are going to operate your 261 at extreme angle, keep an eye on the oil pressure. Discovered recently that my 261 at full song going down the highway is pumping so much oil up into the engine that if you hit the brakes going into a sweeping left hand turn the oil pressure will suddenly drop from 42 PSI to under 5 PSI momentarily.

I have the 261 4x4 sump oil pan but it doesn't have the lower baffle found on the military 216. My surmise is that when you hit the brakes and turn left the oil sloshes forward away from the oil pickup allowing it to suck air for a moment. This doesn’t show up on the normal instrument panel gage which are slow reading due to their small tube size on my CMP with the standard 216 oil gage that reads 0-30 SI it is pegged almost all the time. I installed a second fast reading pressure gage which reads 0-80 PSI this one shows the pressure fluctuations. Got to do some more research on this issue.

I have done some studies on what grade and side angles the original 216 systems could work at, I’ll have to put the pictures and notes together and post them.