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14-02-10, 16:35
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entrenching tools:
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When we started the HLIofC group here in Cambridge (about a million years ago) we had an interesting problem - couldn't find enough entrenching tools. We did have a few and at an early display for the Vets, we apologized for not having enough to go round. The vets emphatically advised us that they chucked that usless tool, and prefferred to dig in with real tools.
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14-02-10, 17:03
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My take on it is that if there was a mechanic, then there was a truck, and if there was a truck, then there was a real shovel.
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22-02-10, 04:43
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I think the illustration on page 26 of 'From D-Day to VE-Day The Canadian Soldier' best shows how these pouches were worn by soldiers of an infantry section Bren group.
I have heard these called many names...supplementary, auxillary, bras, utility, bren, you name it. I don't think anyone knows for sure. Certainly nothing to get all huffy about...we all know what they are when we hear any of the designations mentioned in this thread. With respect Dale
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22-02-10, 05:14
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Re: Bren (Utility) Pouches
Hi All,
That's exactly my point. I just thought I'd mention it for those of you who didn't know. Rgs...Keyan 
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23-02-10, 11:31
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My Point Is...
That apparently none of you know what you are talking about when you have to go and use half-a-dozen made up names for something that already has a name. The name is known and according to WWII military documentation the pouches in question are called Utility Pouches, plain and simple. The pouches were issued with a number of weapons systems so calling them 'Bren Pouches' is not correct and for heavens sake they were not called a 'Bren Bra'.
What is a huge joke is you then get people coming onto the forum trying to put some historical spin onto how these pieces of webbing should be named after ladies undergarments because apparently that is how they look when worn. It really becomes blatantanly obvious that these 'pet names' do not work when you have people asking for clarification on what these items are every time someone posts that they are for sale. What is wrong with saying that you saw a box of Rear, Canadian made, Utility Pouches for sale at Princess Auto rather than using one of the other made up names? This is still leaves room on the thread to discuss the manufacture and year stamps if everyone is so inclined. What I am curious about is how do you guys order parts for your vehicle restorations? Do you go and make up names for each part as well? If so, it must drive the dealers crazy.
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23-02-10, 12:29
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Well actually it gets rather interesting when ordering the good old "doohickie" part. Huge difference if its on a CMP or Carrier. You wouldn't want to make that mistake too many times. Then when you mix in "thingamajig" whoa buddy it worse even more. Don't get me started on that one.
I guess too that if I call the great Utility Pouches, a Bren Bra, everyone in the civilized world will now know what im talking about. Why because everyone should read right, You yourself have said that many a time on various forums. Well, all of us here on MLU and the rest of the civilized world read this forum. Reading is good, Ive read whats on this forum so it all must be good. Therefore im set. Actually I think im going to go back to restoring vehicles as I seem to get along better with them. Can't wait for the summer living history (reenacting) season to open up again to put on some fantastic displays for the public. Come out an see me with my Bren Gun Carrier (Universal Carrier Mk1*, for those that care (saw it too in a book)) and Jeep. I'll have em loaded down in with Bren Gun bra's (Utility Pouches, just to keep things clear).
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23-02-10, 12:31
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Sorry, forgot to take my tounge out of my cheek or is it my foot out of my ass on that last posting. Wait thats someone else. K im good my tounge is no longer in my cheek. Phew that was close.
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23-02-10, 18:40
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I respect your knowledge when it comes to Canadian militaria and I do recommend your books, but jeez...lighten up a bit. I have the WWII pamphlet that you mentioned, but most people don't(Yes, they are called utility pouches in said pamphlet), but for all intents and purposes...people have the freedom to call them what they like. A lot of the terms I heard came from vets themselves. So far I have not seen any pictures of soldiers wearing the 'utility' pouches either than the members of a Bren group. If anyone has pictures to share, please do. Again, with respect Dale
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