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14-02-10, 08:55
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for what it may be worth...
I first saw these pouches in the Osprey title: "British Infantry Equipment 1908-80" Men at Arms series no 108 published in 1980. This was written and illustrated by Mike Chappell who had served many years in the British Army.
The image in the colour plates in the centre shows the auxiliary pouches worn around the neck. Can someone provide photographic evidence of them in use in WW2? I guess it is a bit like entrenching tools. The 'book' descibes the item provided, yet photos of Kiwi infantry in Italy clearly show Bulldog brand GS shovels and picks carried instead. Rob 
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14-02-10, 17:35
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entrenching tools:
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When we started the HLIofC group here in Cambridge (about a million years ago) we had an interesting problem - couldn't find enough entrenching tools. We did have a few and at an early display for the Vets, we apologized for not having enough to go round. The vets emphatically advised us that they chucked that usless tool, and prefferred to dig in with real tools.
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14-02-10, 18:03
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My take on it is that if there was a mechanic, then there was a truck, and if there was a truck, then there was a real shovel.
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22-02-10, 05:43
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I think the illustration on page 26 of 'From D-Day to VE-Day The Canadian Soldier' best shows how these pouches were worn by soldiers of an infantry section Bren group.
I have heard these called many names...supplementary, auxillary, bras, utility, bren, you name it. I don't think anyone knows for sure. Certainly nothing to get all huffy about...we all know what they are when we hear any of the designations mentioned in this thread. With respect Dale
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22-02-10, 06:14
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Re: Bren (Utility) Pouches
Hi All,
That's exactly my point. I just thought I'd mention it for those of you who didn't know. Rgs...Keyan 
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23-02-10, 12:31
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My Point Is...
That apparently none of you know what you are talking about when you have to go and use half-a-dozen made up names for something that already has a name. The name is known and according to WWII military documentation the pouches in question are called Utility Pouches, plain and simple. The pouches were issued with a number of weapons systems so calling them 'Bren Pouches' is not correct and for heavens sake they were not called a 'Bren Bra'.
What is a huge joke is you then get people coming onto the forum trying to put some historical spin onto how these pieces of webbing should be named after ladies undergarments because apparently that is how they look when worn. It really becomes blatantanly obvious that these 'pet names' do not work when you have people asking for clarification on what these items are every time someone posts that they are for sale. What is wrong with saying that you saw a box of Rear, Canadian made, Utility Pouches for sale at Princess Auto rather than using one of the other made up names? This is still leaves room on the thread to discuss the manufacture and year stamps if everyone is so inclined. What I am curious about is how do you guys order parts for your vehicle restorations? Do you go and make up names for each part as well? If so, it must drive the dealers crazy.
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