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Old 07-02-10, 16:42
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Alex, if you hit a modern vehicle with a CMP, it's the one that would be doing the crush absorbing anyway.
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Old 08-02-10, 03:32
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Default I did not say to bugger off....

Gord

You ninnie....... I am just surprised that you would ask me...after I have seen what you are capable of doing...... I will gladly do what I can to help you out. Bring your doors down to Acton and remove the inner skin first so we can see the guts of things....

Hang in there.

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Old 08-02-10, 04:15
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Default The impossible dream......

Well after listening to all the good advice...... and the nay sayer who said the 10:50 Chevron tires would not fit a CMP rim.....and not knowing any better.... we did it.....

Pictures will follow from Grant and Rob.

The tire shop guys said to me the last time I was over begging for tire lube.... "Why don't you guys use threaded rods to get the rim together if you can't reach the two long studs......?

That set my mind to thinking how to build a device that would not damage the painted rims.... and safe and easy to use...

Well I built two steel tubing crosses.... drilled for the drum bolt pattern... got 36 inches of 3/4 threaded rod and nuts......cut the rods in 4 pieces a bit of welding and whalla!!!

The pictures will show you what I mean. The device is intended to install the tire bead on the lower and longer half of the rim. The messy tire lub they sold me worked like K-Y jelly on a new bride..... smissshh !!!

One cross fits the under side of the lower half of the rim....tire is expended and held open with square pieces of two x four lumber....... remember I am only instaling the tire bead on the lower half of the rim.... Phil.. tire was cold... the lube was like crystalized snoot.... the upper cross is 18 inches across and spans the tire bead... we added cut off pieces of 1x2 steel left over from the ends of the crosses to push the bead down enough so we coiuld remove the inner cross...... so when you screw the 4 large bolts the bead is forced evenly over the edge of the lubed rim with hardly any hesitation.

Once the tire bead is properly installed on the lower half.... we removed the rig and inserted the tube and flap..... partly inflated the tube... enough to position the tube BUT not enough to bulge the flap between the rim. We did use a flat stick to make sure everything was in the right place.

The top half of the rim was then applied....even forgot to lube the top half... by now the two longer rim studs reched and allowed to install the nuts.... the rest is nuts on..... tighten evenly..... inflate deflate.. reinflate. At 30 psi the tire was fully seated and not even a "pop" was heard....just slipped in place like nothing.

Now we have 3 more to do for mine..... plus dozen more to come.

It sure beat the hell out of trimming beads, hammering the bead on the rim, cursing......

Now if the casing had been softer with mild weather it would have been even easier. Every garage should have one....cost about $20 of steel and $20 for rod and nuts...... getting tire done at the tire shop.... $20 + pick up and delivery time..... the experience of doing it yourself...safely and without breaking into a sweat....priceless.

Having Grant and Rob to help is a luxury!!!

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Old 08-02-10, 13:51
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Default Bob's Wonderful Wheel Whirlygig

Wave a red flag. Say it can't be done. Then watch Bob. Our fearless leader put together a very practical tire/rim mounting rig. He has already explained how he put it together. Here are some shots showing the construction phase.
Grant has some more shots of the process and the finished product. Bob gives me way too much credit on this project - all I did was watch, take photos and ask the dumb questions while working on my 45 HUP.
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Old 08-02-10, 13:58
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Default What Is It?

This little device probably could have been made up, painted and mounted by an expert in 20 minutes. It took me a bit longer (OK, all morning). Any ideas of what it is? A free beer at BBB4 is the prize - Bob and Grant you can't play.
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Old 08-02-10, 14:28
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Before the shots of the tire rig - one of the inside of Lucifer, the other of the thermometer showing the result...
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Old 08-02-10, 15:12
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Default Tire press tool

One more shot of it under construction, three of the finished tool. We haven't yet made a second cross arm for 20" rims/tires but we can't think of any reason it shouldn't work just as well.
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Old 08-02-10, 19:45
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Hi Guys

Well that tool sure looks like it fits the bill given the hole size on the rims is the same I agree that it should work with either 16 or 20 inch rims. Looks like if you turn the crosses around so the bead blocks face out you then use the rig to pull the two wheel half's together.

Get out your steel marking stamps and punch a part number on along with CMP Tire Mounting Clamp or some other suitable descriptor. Just for the hell of it date it 1942 and if you can put the broad arrow on it just to screw somebodies head in 20 years.

I had used a pair of large C-clamps but I must admit to having bent one of them in the process, to much force.

Your tool also looks like it will help save the studs and nuts from being overloaded.

How about a picture of it in uses the next tire you mount. Now I see the added picture with it in use, great.

Cheers Phil
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Old 18-03-10, 20:16
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This little device probably could have been made up, painted and mounted by an expert in 20 minutes. It took me a bit longer (OK, all morning). Any ideas of what it is? A free beer at BBB4 is the prize - Bob and Grant you can't play.
No Wonder the Hammond Manufacturing Company is loosing money..Slack bastards frigging around while your partners are sweating awy..Rob..you have got to start pulling your weight...!!
Get down to Gracies tonight for some T.A.(Trade Advancement)..

Just released today..


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Hammond BARN Manufacturing Company Limited

TSX: HBM
Hammond BARN Manufacturing Company Limited
Mar 18, 2010 11:56 ET
Hammond Manufacturing Company Limited Announces Financial Results for the Year and Fourth Quarter Ended December 31, 2009

Hammond Barn, ONTARIO--(Marketwire - March 18, 2010) - Hammond BARN Manufacturing Company Limited (TSX:HBM
Twelve months ending: Three months ending:
12/31/09 12/31/08 12/31/09 12/31/08
Net Sales $ 69,406,000 $ 78,160,000 $ 16,190,000 $ 20,641,000
Earnings from operations $ 1,525,000 $ 4,155,000 $ 156,000 $ 2,740,000
Net Earnings $ (44,000) $ 4,889,000 $ 69,000 $ 2,445,000
Earnings per share $ (0.00) $ 0.43 $ 0.01 $ 0.21


Shares outstanding 11,334,300 11,334,300
Net Book value per share $ 2.36 $ 2.36

The recession impacted our 2009 results and one of the employees was slacking off and doggin' it ..most of the time..No Names but his initials are ROB CLARKE,,,chief dogger..
Sales for 2009 dropped approximately 11.2% from the prior year resulting in a loss of $44,000. We continue to position the operations for the future.

Hammond Barn Manufacturing Company Limited manufactures a broad range of products for the electronic and electrical products industry, including metallic and non-metallic enclosures, racks, small cases, outlet strips, surge suppressors and electronic transformers...rusty old trucks and parts too...

For more information, please contact
Hammond Barn Manufacturing Company Limited
Robert Carrier
Chairman and CEO
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Old 18-03-10, 21:46
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No Wonder the Hammond Manufacturing Company is loosing money.. Blah, blah, blah...For more information, please contact
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Alex, You have too much time on your hands... You need a new hobby. I have a nice Ford CMP for sale at a special "UN" price - just for you, my friend!
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