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Old 04-02-10, 21:50
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I got that American Rifleman magazine off ebay and it had this pic of an early pogo style mount. The truck is an 11 cab F15 by the look of it. It's not high enough to be a 4x4. This is the only pic I've come across of the early style mounts in a truck. It's interesting to note the sling fitted to the Bren. I guess they wanted to be ready for anything! There's also a chain and rope draped around the pintle hitch.
The third pic is a rather cumbersome looking quad Bren mount.
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1940 Cab 11 C8 cab and chassis
1940 Cab 11 C15 with 2A1 & Motley mount & Lewis gun
1940 Cab 11 F15A w/ Chev rear ends
1941 Cab 12 F15A
1942-44 Cab 13 F15A x 5
1942 cab 13 F15A with 2B1 box
1943 cab 13 F15A with 2H1 box
1943 Cab 13 C8A HUP
1944 Cab 13 C15A with 2C1 box
1943 Cletrac M2 High Speed Tractor
MkII Bren gun carrier chassis x 2

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Old 05-02-10, 02:03
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The pogo mount pic in the previous post was taken by a Life photographer so I looked in Google's Life images and came up with this one. If you look close, it's the same truck taken moments before. I was right about it being a 4x2 version too.
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1940 Cab 11 C8 Wireless with 1A2 box & 11 set
1940 Cab 11 C8 cab and chassis
1940 Cab 11 C15 with 2A1 & Motley mount & Lewis gun
1940 Cab 11 F15A w/ Chev rear ends
1941 Cab 12 F15A
1942-44 Cab 13 F15A x 5
1942 cab 13 F15A with 2B1 box
1943 cab 13 F15A with 2H1 box
1943 Cab 13 C8A HUP
1944 Cab 13 C15A with 2C1 box
1943 Cletrac M2 High Speed Tractor
MkII Bren gun carrier chassis x 2
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Old 05-02-10, 23:18
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Here's a few more off the IWM site.

Operation TORCH: airmen of an RAF Regiment anti-aircraft flight man Browning twin anti-aircraft machine guns from the back of a three-ton truck on the airfield at Bone, Algeria 13-25 November 1942
REFERENCE NUMBER CNA 38
Those are Brownings on motley seats mounted in a 60 cwt. If there's two more on the other side and one more in the front it would sure be an impressive sight.

Men of the 2nd Cameron Highlanders man a Bren gun set up on an anti-aircraft mounting in the back of a 15cwt truck during training at Mena Camp near Giza, Egypt, 4 June 1940.
REFERENCE NUMBER E 128

Soldiers of the 4th Indian Division decorate the side of their lorry 'Khyber pass to Hellfire Pass'. 'Hellfire Pass' was the nickname for the strategically important Halfaya Pass, fortified by the Germans and which the British attacked, unsuccessfully, during Operation Battleaxe.
REFERENCE NUMBER E 3660
That's some kind of a Bren mount in the back of a 15cwt with a 2B1 box.
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1940 Cab 11 C8 Wireless with 1A2 box & 11 set
1940 Cab 11 C8 cab and chassis
1940 Cab 11 C15 with 2A1 & Motley mount & Lewis gun
1940 Cab 11 F15A w/ Chev rear ends
1941 Cab 12 F15A
1942-44 Cab 13 F15A x 5
1942 cab 13 F15A with 2B1 box
1943 cab 13 F15A with 2H1 box
1943 Cab 13 C8A HUP
1944 Cab 13 C15A with 2C1 box
1943 Cletrac M2 High Speed Tractor
MkII Bren gun carrier chassis x 2
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Old 12-02-10, 06:22
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Here's a low res shot off ebay. It's a 15 cwt cab 12 with a Bren Motley in a 2B1 box. It has the stowage link hooked up and it sits the Bren level. I thought they would sit down at the rear. I'll have to rethink this when I get around to making the link for mine.
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1940 Cab 11 C8 Wireless with 1A2 box & 11 set
1940 Cab 11 C8 cab and chassis
1940 Cab 11 C15 with 2A1 & Motley mount & Lewis gun
1940 Cab 11 F15A w/ Chev rear ends
1941 Cab 12 F15A
1942-44 Cab 13 F15A x 5
1942 cab 13 F15A with 2B1 box
1943 cab 13 F15A with 2H1 box
1943 Cab 13 C8A HUP
1944 Cab 13 C15A with 2C1 box
1943 Cletrac M2 High Speed Tractor
MkII Bren gun carrier chassis x 2

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Old 18-02-10, 04:47
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Here's one from Getty Images taken in 1941 in north africa.
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1940 Cab 11 C8 Wireless with 1A2 box & 11 set
1940 Cab 11 C8 cab and chassis
1940 Cab 11 C15 with 2A1 & Motley mount & Lewis gun
1940 Cab 11 F15A w/ Chev rear ends
1941 Cab 12 F15A
1942-44 Cab 13 F15A x 5
1942 cab 13 F15A with 2B1 box
1943 cab 13 F15A with 2H1 box
1943 Cab 13 C8A HUP
1944 Cab 13 C15A with 2C1 box
1943 Cletrac M2 High Speed Tractor
MkII Bren gun carrier chassis x 2
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Old 02-03-10, 04:05
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This one's a western desert pic off Life images. The guys in the back are installing a motley seat.
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1940 Cab 11 C8 Wireless with 1A2 box & 11 set
1940 Cab 11 C8 cab and chassis
1940 Cab 11 C15 with 2A1 & Motley mount & Lewis gun
1940 Cab 11 F15A w/ Chev rear ends
1941 Cab 12 F15A
1942-44 Cab 13 F15A x 5
1942 cab 13 F15A with 2B1 box
1943 cab 13 F15A with 2H1 box
1943 Cab 13 C8A HUP
1944 Cab 13 C15A with 2C1 box
1943 Cletrac M2 High Speed Tractor
MkII Bren gun carrier chassis x 2
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Old 07-10-10, 05:35
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Here's one from Military Vehicle Profiles that I didn't notice before.
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1940 Cab 11 C8 Wireless with 1A2 box & 11 set
1940 Cab 11 C8 cab and chassis
1940 Cab 11 C15 with 2A1 & Motley mount & Lewis gun
1940 Cab 11 F15A w/ Chev rear ends
1941 Cab 12 F15A
1942-44 Cab 13 F15A x 5
1942 cab 13 F15A with 2B1 box
1943 cab 13 F15A with 2H1 box
1943 Cab 13 C8A HUP
1944 Cab 13 C15A with 2C1 box
1943 Cletrac M2 High Speed Tractor
MkII Bren gun carrier chassis x 2
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Old 12-08-11, 19:38
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Richard, you don't have any schematics on the PLM mount that you modified do you? Could you possibly reproduce another complete mount?
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Old 15-08-11, 20:45
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Yes Richard, I'd be interested in a mount and chair, or detailed drawings, have just got a glass negative scanned of the B4 Norton Motley, it even shows the maker; "HYDRA" it's rivetted on the main post behind the seat, anything known on the manufacturer??

Can post more detailed pictures of the mount, here's one:



Cheers,

Lex

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