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Old 03-02-10, 21:49
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Another piece of the Artillery Tractor puzzle:
http://www.haagsebeeldbank.nl/zoeken...eld/bevrijding

Rier view of a FAT, census number H5558308. I thought that solved it, but then I read this:

"H 5558176 - 5558375 / SM 2546 / Tractor 4x4 F.A. / C291Q / F-GT

However HISTORIC MILITARY VEHICLES DIRECTORY P. 52 has a photo of a Chevrolet FAT marked up as ‘H5558307’!"

(see: http://www.btinternet.com/~gmhistorian/fordlist.htm )

Any thoughts?
Rogier,

Nice find and no worries. The picture David refers to is actually depicting a restored Chevrolet CGT which had a known PIB census number off a Ford FGT applied. I think I pointed this out before, must have been on the old forum.

Hanno

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Source: https://haagsgemeentearchief.nl/medi...0-b85fd4c4c3b6

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Old 03-02-10, 22:11
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Thanks for the clarification Hanno, so we are indeed dealing with a Ford in the Haags archief foto?

I'm on the search for more pics now and found this. It's a vehicle of the Dutch troops as well. Any thoughts on the vehicle type would be appreciated.

Source: http://www.haagsebeeldbank.nl/hga:col1:dat298428
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Old 04-02-10, 11:55
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Thanks for the clarification Hanno, so we are indeed dealing with a Ford in the Haags archief foto?
From this angle I cannot see features to identify it as a Ford or Chevrolet. But based on the known census number range, it is a Ford FGT.

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I'm on the search for more pics now and found this. It's a vehicle of the Dutch troops as well. Any thoughts on the vehicle type would be appreciated.
Great find! It looks like a Standard Utility Truck or "Tilly". See the attached pic (source: http://www.standardmotorclub.org.uk/...ures/tilly.htm)

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Thanks for the clarification Hanno, so we are indeed dealing with a Ford in the Haags archief foto?

I'm on the search for more pics now and found this. It's a vehicle of the Dutch troops as well. Any thoughts on the vehicle type would be appreciated.

Source: http://www.haagsebeeldbank.nl/hga:col1:dat298428
This Standard Utility looks to me to be carrying the sign of the Czech Brigade (lion on blue shield with red cross). Trouble is, with pics of poor resolution, that the Dutch (PIB), Belgian and Czech Brigades all carried a reasonably similar lion (at least to my non-heraldicly trained eyes), and it is quite hard to tell them apart.

However, one of the items on this thread has already remarked that the AOS number 120 does not seem to be recorded as having been issued to anyone!

Aren't these challenges interesting?

Chris
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Old 14-12-10, 21:02
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Thank you very much for your thoughts.

For comparison I've added the Dutch lion emblem as used by the PIB and the emblem of the Bevelhebber van de Nederlandse Strijdkrachten.

For the emblem of the Czech brigade see link. The Czech brigade seems to have used two-digit AOS numbers and was not in the Hague at the time the photo was taken.
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