Bren guns on post war jeeps

[Geoff Winnington-Ball (RIP)]

Originally Posted by malcolm erik bogaert

Roger that Jiff however will have to take you to task on your comments.ref enfield rifle not being up to taking 7.62 rounds...in fact we had a rifle(SNIPER) and I think it was called a Fulton Conversion...anyways we had them on strength in our Sqn...best regards malcolm

The Lee Enfields would take 7.62mm conversions all right, but the trouble was that the excess pressure would stretch the receivers over time, leading to all sorts of headspace problems. The rifle was the fastest and most reliable bolt action in the world until conversion... but it was of course made moot by the introduction of the excellent FAL series of rifles (L1A1, C1A1 etc), so just as well. Nowadays our snipers use Mauser-based actions with even more powerful rounds than the "old" 7.62.

Ref the Bren, I was referring to the excellent 7.92mm Bren we manufactured over here for export (primarily to China). They were very good weapons and would have complimented the 7.92 Besas our British-based armour carried.

[Mark W. Tonner]

Originally Posted by Geoff Winnington-Ball

Nowadays our snipers use Mauser-based actions with even more powerful rounds than the "old" 7.62

We actually presently employ two types of Sniper rifle:

- C3A1 Sniper Rifle
- Long Range Sniper Weapon (LRSW)

The ammunition used in the C3A1 Sniper Rifle is 7.62mm x 51mm NATO Match Ball
The ammunition used in the LRSW is Amax .50 cal Match Ball



Cheers

[rob love]

Originally Posted by Mark W. Tonner

We actually presently employ two types of Sniper rifle:

- C3A1 Sniper Rifle
- Long Range Sniper Weapon (LRSW)

The ammunition used in the C3A1 Sniper Rifle is 7.62mm x 51mm NATO Match Ball
The ammunition used in the LRSW is Amax .50 cal Match Ball



Cheers

The C3A1 is primarily a training rifle now....it was actually almost phased out but has been retained to save wear and tear on the C14 timberwolf sniper rifle, in .338 lapua.

I also saw an AR10 the other day all dressed up in Canadian garb. That is a .308 cal M16 type rifle. A small quantity were purchased for the no2 in the sniping team, and while these were supposed to be phased out as they broke, the troops love them so the weapons techs keep patching them up.

[Geoff Winnington-Ball (RIP)]

Originally Posted by rob love

The C3A1 is primarily a training rifle now....it was actually almost phased out but has been retained to save wear and tear on the C14 timberwolf sniper rifle, in .338 lapua.

I also saw an AR10 the other day all dressed up in Canadian garb. That is a .308 cal M16 type rifle. A small quantity were purchased for the no2 in the sniping team, and while these were supposed to be phased out as they broke, the troops love them so the weapons techs keep patching them up.

I didn't know we still had AR-10s! About twenty years ago I had a chance to fire an original in both semi and full automatic modes and I found it infinitely better than any of its comtemporaries, at least in full auto mode!

[rob love]

Originally Posted by Geoff Winnington-Ball

I didn't know we still had AR-10s! About twenty years ago I had a chance to fire an original in both semi and full automatic modes and I found it infinitely better than any of its comtemporaries, at least in full auto mode!

These are relatively new Armalite AR10s, purchased in the last four or five years. The guys claim to have more kills with the AR10 than with the C14 that it is there to support. As the AR10s fall into disrepair, they are supposed to be replaced with the C7CT, a heavy barrelled version of the .223 M16 type rifle, made by Colt Canada (formerly Diemaco).

[Geoff Winnington-Ball (RIP)]

Originally Posted by rob love

These are relatively new Armalite AR10s, purchased in the last four or five years. The guys claim to have more kills with the AR10 than with the C14 that it is there to support. As the AR10s fall into disrepair, they are supposed to be replaced with the C7CT, a heavy barrelled version of the .223 M16 type rifle, made by Colt Canada (formerly Diemaco).

You're not talking about a version of the U.S. SR-25 are you? I've seen those in action and they're pretty impressive, although I never got to shoot one.

The AR-10 I fired was an original, predating the AR-15/M-16 series of rifles. It was one hell of a rifle.

[malcolm erik bogaert]

some years ago there was a masive batch for sale in Netherlands..at £250..00 per weapon...wanted one but my then wife wouldnt let me...so bought ex army SLR instead with Hensolt Scope..and used it on the Dear(no not her) with remmington 308........forst ranger said to me one day what will it do....put in mag of standard 308 ball...see that dry stone wall what wall....cheers malcolm

[rob love]

Originally Posted by Geoff Winnington-Ball

You're not talking about a version of the U.S. SR-25 are you? I've seen those in action and they're pretty impressive, although I never got to shoot one.

The AR-10 I fired was an original, predating the AR-15/M-16 series of rifles. It was one hell of a rifle.

The side of this rifle was clearly marked "Armalite AR10" I didn't check the other side to see if it was select fire or not.....I presume it was but can't say for sure.

[Mark W. Tonner]

Originally Posted by rob love

... C14 timberwolf sniper rifle ...

Rob;

I'd forgotten about the C14 Timberwolf ... it totally slipped my mind ... old age I guess ...

Cheers