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Old 11-11-09, 19:42
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I've just noticed that the photo from the Osprey book in the initial post of this thread disappeared. So I post it again as well as another view of the Rhodesian T16 variant in full colour that I found in another forum I belong to.

As for what you call the M203 it really seems very interesting. R.P. Hunnicutt in his "Bradley. A History of American Fighting and Support Vehicles" says nothing about such a vehicle. He mentions only derivative of the T16 designated T16E2 that had slightly different chassis than the basic version but its armour was the same as in the T16. By the way the "M203" in the photo has the chassis of the standard T16 carrier.

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Old 12-11-09, 05:28
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The print AFV News had several stories in the 70s and 80s on Rhodesian improvised vehicles. These led to books by a Kiwi named Peter Cooke and an ex Rhodesian named Peter Stiff. Their works extensively researched and chronicled the technical histories.

For a landlocked country dependant on the good will and trade links of their neighbours, they did quite well in their arms industries. For example, they rebadged BEDFORDs as RODEF trucks. They devised advanced mine-proofed vehicles on Land Rovers, Unimogs and F150s that were copied and improved by the South Africans, the descendants of which (not whom) are saving lives daily overseas. They also modified whatever was at hand to suit the task.

The T16 carriers photographed are a perfect example of improvise, adapt and overcome to achieve the mission. I doubt there were more than a few, although I will have to refer to my archives to confirm.
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Old 15-11-09, 04:24
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Peter Cooke and Peter Locke are the authors. Both New Zealanders.

The carrier is not mentioned in their book, which tells me that it escaped their otherwise exhaustive research. My pencil notation in the book mentions it appearing in Soldier of Fortune, July 1979. It must be a one-of-a-kind. The two photos are coincidentally the same vehicle from two sides.
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Old 18-09-15, 04:26
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I know this thread is long cold but I just found it. The Rhodesian T16 is remarkably similar to pictures I have seen of similar conversions undertaken during one of the minor African wars (Congo?) which some Rhodesians could well have seen. As is always the case, I can't find the pictures at the moment.
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Old 18-09-15, 05:04
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Hi dcrfan I'm not sure how you have registered without a name, but as you are a kiwi, I'll assume good things, so, welcome aboard!
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Old 31-05-16, 05:58
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I have recently received further information on this vehicle which goes a little way to solving the mystery. It was the prototype of a private venture modification by a Salisbury engineering company using a T16 chassis removed from a museum. It was tested by the Rhodesian Army Rh Armoured Car Regiment, WO O'Reilly, Troop 4.1 in 1977 at a dam on a farm for its water fording capabilities but deemed not suitable as it was too slow (due to the weight of the armour?) and it's reliability was suspect. Due to these factors it was only suitable for airfield defence. It is unknown if it was actually operated by the Army in this role. The members of the Rhodesian Air Force Regiment who operated Eland 60 armoured cars in air field defence do not recall it being operated by the regular forces.

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Old 31-05-16, 09:41
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Looking at that carrier, you can see where the design inspiration came from for the CVRT Spartan !
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