ex-Victory Museum Morris-Commercial PU8/4

[Maurice Donckers]

about the outside exibits at Arlon, the Firefly and Carrier went back to the Belgian Army in Kapellen , the Churchill back to it`s owners , and Sherman back to US army in Germany.

[Alex van de Wetering]

about the outside exibits at Arlon, the Firefly and Carrier went back to the Belgian Army in Kapellen , the Churchill back to it`s owners , and Sherman back to US army in Germany.

Thanks Maurice.

[Alan McGuinness]

Our friends on HMVF have posted a link to some great home movies from 1970 of early MV collecting in the UK - scroll down to the bottom here:

http://www.steamcar.net/past-cars.html

The third movie at about 16:48 is particularly relevant for this string (it's all entertaining though).

[Ron Pier]

Blimey well done on that Alan. That is first time I have ever seen another PU8/4 moving apart from my own. That is the one that now resides in the Victory museum in Auburn Indiana. It still looks exactly the same and even appears to have the same mud on it? No such yards like that left in England now, and did those blokes also actually get paid to work there? Such fun. I think the H&S officer would soon piss on their firework nowadays! Great that someone bothered to film it. I presume it was on Exmoor? Ron

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally Posted by Ron Pier

Blimey well done on that Alan. That is first time I have ever seen another PU8/4 moving apart from my own. That is the one that now resides in the Victory museum in Auburn Indiana. It still looks exactly the same and even appears to have the same mud on it?

Ron,

Please note that Henry Venetta's Museum is closed. Henry passed away and his collection was sold to a certain Reed Knight of Knights Armament. It has been moved to Florida, I hope the PU8/4 is included and will enjoy it´s retirement in the sunshine state -possibly after a good wash for the first time in decades?!?

Hanno

[Ron Pier]

Hanno by Henry Vennetta, you mean the place in Auburn? Sorry but I've not heard of him. I'll google up this other place and see what comes up. I'd like to keep track of the other PU. I never found the staff/director very helpfull at auburn. Thanks for the heads up. Ron

[Ron Pier]

All I can come up with re Reed Knight is references to his gun making company?? Ron

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Here is the auction entry dating back to 2012:

https://rmsothebys.com/en/auctions/m...s-truck/734450

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1940 Morris Commercial PU 8/4 4x4 Wireless Truck

Sold For $12,000
Inclusive of applicable buyer's fee.
RM | Auctions - THE NATIONAL MILITARY HISTORY CENTER 8 DECEMBER 2012
Identification No.
V3991
Addendum

All military vehicles and artifacts offered in this sale are sold "As Is" and "For collector purposes only". These military vehicles and artifacts should never be loaded and/or fired with any ammunition. We make no warranty and/or representations as to the suitability or fitness of these items for use. By purchasing military vehicles and artifacts you hereby and irrevocably waive any and all claims against Auctions America by RM, Inc. and agree to indemnify and hold harmless Auctions America by RM, Inc. from any injuries or death associated with these military vehicles and artifacts. Please note, there may be an associated licensing fee based on the location of licensing, and bidder must satisfy himself as to all licensing and import requirements in his home state or country.

Please Note: Information regarding these museum display vehicles was provided by the National Military History Center and has not been independently verified by Auctions America by RM ("AA"). As such, AA does not verify, warrant or guarantee any of this information. Prior inspection and research by the buyer is highly encouraged and recommended.

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Please note this is being sold on "Bill of Sale" only.

Manufacturer: Morris Commercial Cars Ltd., Birmingham
Production Year: 1940
Engine: Morris OH, in-line, liquid-cooled, 74-hp, six-cylinder, 3.48-litres
Transmission: 4F1Rx1
Brakes: Hydraulic
Wheelbase: 96-inches
Length: 13-feet, 4-inches
Width: 6-feet, 7-inches
Height: 6-feet, 8-inches
Weight: Approximately 2.6-tons
Armor: None
Armament: None
Maximum Road Speed: Approximately 55-mph
Markings: British Army green

In 1933, the British War Office issued specifications for a new type of purpose-built GS (General Service) truck. The specifications included carrying loads up to 15-cwt (15 “hundred-weight”= 1500 pounds), and utilization of commercially built components as much as possible; along with short wheelbase, good ground clearance and a semi-forward driver’s compartment. Five manufacturers produced prototypes including Morris Commercial, Ford, Commer, Guy and Vauxhall (Bedford). Morris Commercial was the first to produce a prototype, designated CS8. The 4x2, 15-cwt CS8 entered production in 1934 before being phased out in 1941 by the improved C4. The 4x4 PU 8/4, as displayed, entered production in 1940. Even though the PU 8/4 shared the engine and most other components with the CS8/C4, the load capacity was reduced to 8-cwt to improve performance. This type of model of the PU 8/4 carried a No. 11 wireless transmitting set (radio) with a special transmitting table and fittings for batteries and equipment. An auxiliary generator was fitted for charging the wireless batteries. In 1942, the British army ordered all production of 8-cwts to cease in favor of 15-cwts. Only 1,192 PU 8/4s were built.

[Hanno Spoelstra]

In 2012 it was sold to a collector in the UK, and it came back on the market earlier this year.

It is now in the hands of the most capable Morris-Commercial restorer that I know of.

It will be fully restored and taken much better care of than by the previous owner who parked it in a muddy field....

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[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally Posted by Alan McGuinness

Our friends on HMVF have posted a link to some great home movies from 1970 of early MV collecting in the UK - scroll down to the bottom here:

http://www.steamcar.net/past-cars.html

The third movie at about 16:48 is particularly relevant for this string (it's all entertaining though).

The video is no longer available on that site, but it can be found here: https://vimeo.com/9185388

To see all of Jeff Theobald's video's, go to: https://vimeo.com/user2003563