Blitz Semi Trailer

[Keith Webb]

Hi Serge
The likely explanation for the pushbar location is the truck has had a rebuild at some stage. As for the welded upper bar under the hood, most of the 44/45 'FORD CANADA' CMPs to be found here in Australia are the same; it's only a few which have the bolt-in variety.

Originally Posted by serge

What I found strange on the cab number 13 was that on the bottom of the cab under the head light we could read FORD CANADA (like in the last cab) and in an other hand the metalic part under the little hood was welded as in the first cab number 13.. The position of the push barr was refered also to first model of these cab (behind the bumper).
The new owner told me that the tractor was store during 40 years and every month the engine was set 'in marche'
What do you think of the cab??

Regards Serge

[serge]

HELLO KEITH

I thank you for your answer. Since long time I am enthousiast for these trucks and I own a great collection of pics. I believed to know all about these truck and every time I learn new informations. In France (and in EUROPE BELGIUM ,NEDERLAND and GREAT BRITAIN) most parts of CMP with cab number 13 are stamped FORD CANADA with the metalic part under the bonnet holded with nuts or are stamped FORD with the metallic part under the bonnet welded.

Best regards Serge

[cantankrs]

Hi Tony and Brett,

Thanks for your info. Interesting stuff.

Regards

Alex

[Euan McDonald]

Pics of Johns north south truck with folding boat trailer.

[cliff]

Originally Posted by Euan McDonald

Pics of Johns north south truck with folding boat trailer.

Boy I could have done with that photo of the trailer turn table when making my model of the Ford Semi on the North/South Military Highway.

[Brett Nicholls]

Hi Euan,
Thanks for the great pictures . John's trailer looks very close (in construction) to the one recovered - I wish it was only in as good a condtion as john's. I'll send a PM. Thanks.
Regards,
Brett Nicholls.

[Lionelgee]

Originally Posted by cliff

Boy I could have done with that photo of the trailer turn table when making my model of the Ford Semi on the North/South Military Highway.

G'day Cliff, Thanks for the information - one of those F- word trucks. This would be a jail-bar type and did it come with a V8?

Also CMP trucks are cab over variety built especially for the military whereas my truck is a civilian pattern with the engine out the front. What sort of percentage would there have been in the Australian Armed Forces of CMP cab overs compared to long nose civilian types like my truck?

Kind Regards
Lionel

[Keith Webb]

Originally Posted by Lionelgee

G'day Cliff, Thanks for the information - one of those F- word trucks. This would be a jail-bar type and did it come with a V8?

Also CMP trucks are cab over variety built especially for the military whereas my truck is a civilian pattern with the engine out the front. What sort of percentage would there have been in the Australian Armed Forces of CMP cab overs compared to long nose civilian types like my truck?

Kind Regards
Lionel

That's the '41 model. The Jailbar was '42 and on. A much nicer design in my opinion. And it did come with a V8. As a percentage I would think the normal control outnumber CMPs in Australian use. These were known as MCP, or modified conventional pattern vehicles.

[cliff]

Originally Posted by Lionelgee

This would be a jail-bar type and did it come with a V8?

The jailbar Ford was 1942 on but unlike Keith I prefer the pre-Jailbar Fords. While Ford did have a 6 cylinder motor the flathead/sidevalve V8 predominated and I can only think of a few Ford models I have seen with the 6 cylinder fitted and they were low profile military models, not MCP vehicles but I believe a lot of MCP Fords with the 6 cylinder motor were supplied to Russia as Lend Lease.

Also CMP trucks are cab over variety built especially for the military whereas my truck is a civilian pattern with the engine out the front. What sort of percentage would there have been in the Australian Armed Forces of CMP cab overs compared to long nose civilian types like my truck?

Again as Keith said Modified Civilian Pattern (MCP) vehicles of all makes including your Chev would have been more numerous then the CMP's.

[Lionelgee]

Originally Posted by Euan McDonald

Pics of Johns north south truck with folding boat trailer.

G'day Euan,

Just wonder what breed of truck is in the photo with the trailer hitched to it?

Kind Regards
Lionel

[cliff]

Originally Posted by Lionelgee

G'day Euan,

Just wonder what breed of truck is in the photo with the trailer hitched to it?

Kind Regards
Lionel

1941 Ford Lionel. This is a good example of a cowl with windscreen import with local body fitted. Assembled (built) by Ford here in Aussie with all the mods required so they did not fall to pieces driving on the North/South Military Highway (now Stuart Highway) In the early days a brand new conventional looking truck could leave Alice Springs and arrive at Darwin missing doors, mudguards and bonnets as the road was so rough the bodies flexed enough for the steel to stress fracture and in the end fall off or get pulled off by the drivers.

[Brett Nicholls]

Hi Cliff,
Do you happen to have any pictures of this type of trailer? I have got three from the AWM but would like some for more detail to aid correct restoration. Thanks .
Regards,
Brett Nicholls.