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Old 02-05-09, 23:53
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Colin/Ron/Lynn,

Sorry about the delay in coming back to you. Have been at Waiouru watching one of my boys graduate from army basic training.

Thanks for the replies. Will try your suggestions today and let you know how I get on.

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Darryl
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Old 03-05-09, 05:29
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Gidday again gents,

I've quickly ground to a halt again.

As I feared, my problem now is in removing the 12 bolts that hold the camplate inspection plate. Only half of them have threads tapped into the hull plate and the rest are secured by a nut which is of course inaccessible!

None of the nuts appear to be spotwelded to the hull and are simply fitted to the bolts so as soon as I start turning the bolt the nut starts moving with it.

I can access 3 of the nuts from the right rear crew area but the others are tucked away to the left and front and are simply not reachable.

I guess it is possible that with a bit of leverage on each bolt I could get enough pressure on each nut to undo the bolt and get it right out. I may end up in a position though where I can't get all the bolts out and in the meantime I have some loose nuts and washers floating around the hull. My worry then would be that I would have to resort to cutting off the bolt heads to finish the job.

I think I might just have to consider admitting defeat here and 'leaving well enough alone'.

What I might explore now is to get a tool in from the drivers area to grind off a little piece of the hull plate or the underside of the left side clevis to give the necessary clearance.

Any other thoughts at this stage?

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Darryl
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Old 03-05-09, 10:21
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Do it! Get the thing out. If you cant slide a spanner in, onto the nuts, then what about a pair of vice grips. If thats no good then do grind the heads off of the bolts. (as long as they have a nut on the top)
There are a couple of locating dowels there some where. If you get it out, you can fix it properly.
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Old 03-05-09, 10:54
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Hi Darryl,
Time to bite the bullet mate, do as Lyn suggests, and grind off the heads of the offending bolts,and fix it right,and then you will never have to bother with it again, I have a couple of times taken out the engine and the air scoop to fix similer things,its a bugger of a job but do it once and do it right,
Good luck Regards Ron
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Old 17-05-09, 11:30
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Colin/Ron/Lynn,

Thanks for the replies. You talked me into it and with the assistance of a mate who is a damn sight smaller than I am, we managed to get the camplate assembly out.

The left side clevis (the one I couldn't access) is rather sloppy in the camplate and this was obviously contributing to the binding problem.

I feel though that as you've said the height of the camplate is still a bit out. Does anyone have the correct height measurement available for the camplate? I feel that shimming it by 2-3 mm will probably do it but if there is a height measurement handy, I'll work off that.

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Darryl
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Old 17-05-09, 12:25
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I think you should make sure you have all the correct bits, assembled in the correct manner. Then it has to be right.
Ron do you have a parts exploded veiw of the assembly?
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Old 17-05-09, 12:35
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Hi Lynn,

I have the parts manual but it is not clear in the picture about what parts are included in that part of the assembly.

It refers to the cam pivot and collar but does not go into much more detail. If Ron or anyone else has a better picture, that would be great - thanks.

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