When did production of the #13 cab begin?

[Ryan]

Thanks Jim.
No Hanno it's not the Broken Hill Blitz. That would be good though.
Keith, this is one that was just up the road from me. Been in the same family for decades. Been a farm fire tender. Double springs on the rear.

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Ryan,

Nice find!

[jim sewell]

Ryan
Here is an extract from Norm Darwins book " History of GM in Aust "

CMP vehicles
Engineering of CMP vehicles commenced at Woodville ( S Aust ) on September 1941 when the first parcel of data was received from the contractor , the UK Ministry of Supply , via GM Canada . The Blitz was produced in both Chev and Ford chassis with GMH only handling the GM chassis .

Of all the pictures I have seen in both of Norm's books on GMH I have only seen number 13 cabs . Looking at the production figures for Woodville military bodies , it appears production for CMP's started in 1942.

Regards
Jim S.

[David_Hayward (RIP)]

Another question that needs research (by me)!

Chervolet # 13 Can production may have started with 1942 Models, serial # 284XX0001. Prototype C8A HUP # 284450006 was supposedly built in February 1942 but it has an earlier, 1941 Model engine. I have to suggest that the evidence for Oshawa plant is therefore 'from February' or perhaps March, 1942.

As regards Windsor, I have no information save that there is a photo in one of Dr Gregg's books of the plant with # 12 and # 13 cab trucks which was at the change-over. demand S/M 2126 and 2127 were for C60S and F60S trucks for Australia, and included both # 12 and # 13 cabs I gather. One to 2126 was assembled in September 1942. I can only suggest that Australian production was a few months later than Canadian.

[Keith Webb]

Originally Posted by rynoki

Thanks Jim.
No Hanno it's not the Broken Hill Blitz. That would be good though.
Keith, this is one that was just up the road from me. Been in the same family for decades. Been a farm fire tender. Double springs on the rear.

Is that a small radiator I can see? It looks like one I saw many years ago in a newspaper article. I think that one had a Holden motor.

Going by the roof it's Australian production.

[Ryan]

Thanks again Jim and David. When I get the chassis number it may shed more light on the matter.
keith you are correct about the smaller radiator. It has a Holden 179 engine and holden gearbox. Do you still have the picture you saw in the newspaper?

[Keith Webb]

Originally Posted by rynoki

Thanks again Jim and David. When I get the chassis number it may shed more light on the matter.
keith you are correct about the smaller radiator. It has a Holden 179 engine and holden gearbox. Do you still have the picture you saw in the newspaper?

I may have it somewhere, but I doubt it as I haven't come across it lately. Just shows the old memory is still functioning though!

[David_Hayward (RIP)]

My notes, just found, suggest that the # 13 Cab dates as follows:

The No.13 cab introduced a large number of improvements and modifications, which were agreed upon tentatively at a meeting at 7 Corps HQ on 22nd December 1940, of the Standing Committee at which Brigadier N.O. Carr, D.M.G.O., N.D.H.Q. [Deputy Master-General of the Ordnance], produced photographs of a new type of cab which would provide greater crew comfort and better engine access. He also mentioend that the engines in these trucks should run between 5,000 and 10,00 miles without attention other than provision of oil ans water.

This was taken from Dr Gregg who must have read the relevant file at the Archives in Ottawa though I have not had that pleasure yet.

Brigadier, formerly Colonel, Noel O. 'No Car' Carr was the DND's 'father' of the CMP. I often wondered if he retired as a Major-General.