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Old 04-01-09, 18:32
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Default Another great story

As usual the merry band of MLU has found another interesting old photo and CMP story out there to share, thanks Dirk for the find.

Be sure to go to the original source site http://www.tropenmuseum.nl/smartsite...h=FAB&id=27152 link posted by Rob and click to enlarge the photo interesting detail comes up.

My guess is that this is actually a 1944 for the following reasons (see comparison with my ’45 HUP)

Has a square hatch instead of the round canvas covered observation hatch.
Has the earlier straight running board without the step down for the Jerry Can style spare fuel cans

Now it does have the
  • Lifting flanges on wheels
  • Spare tire on driver’s side, you can tell from the small window behind the drivers head
  • Coolant recovery tank under the fender instead of up by vent
  • Exhaust pipe down under the running board

Bart Vanderveen once gave me a list of all the running changes on HUPs and the dates they were made, (which I am trying to find) he also made a point of the fact that the introduction dates were not absolute because parts in stock at the factory or assembly points would often continue to be used after change over date. He also made a point at the CMP ’84 conference that parts swapping during rebuild, repair etc was common.

Interesting that the woman in the group is out pushing on the back of the HUP, from the sand coming of the sidewall of the rear tire and not as noticeable from the front tires, wonder if this was a staged photo, or that embarrassing I thought it was in four wheel drive? Looking at the tires Holland Vredsten are these a post war production. The lug pattern looks to be the same as the US NDDs.

Once again thanks to all for adding to the CMP knowledge base.
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Old 19-04-09, 03:13
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Default HUP variants

I think that may be a PERS-2 variant, but more likely PERS-1 - it is definitely not the '45 PERS-3 Staff Car: As Phil notes, no door handles, Monsanto not glass body windows, square roof hatch, the POW, not the stepped jerry-can, storage rack on the running board, so that maybe even makes it a PERS-1 to which the slinging hubs were added. I think I see penthouse hooks on the roof sides, too, so does that make it PUTR? If you could see around the other side, it might not have the spare tire carrier either. Spare tires are probably under that roof tarp.

It would be interesting to see when running changes were brought in - I thought the spare tire carrier, at the very least defined the PERS-2, with jerry can rack, and then the U.S. features, round AA hatch, gauges, wood wheel coming in during '44.

I think it's a staged shot - if they were really running the thing in the desert, they would probably want to have the cowl air vents open. Doesn't look that stuck, either.
I'd be really impressed if they had the girl cranking the engine backwards to get it up a huge sand dune.
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