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Old 14-10-08, 00:51
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Since Bob went to all the trouble to set up the shot, here is a happy fellow:


Tight fit...
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Old 14-10-08, 01:13
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Dare we hope for driving by next spring.

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Old 15-10-08, 19:45
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Phil, Maybe on the test track sooner than later! I have to reassemble my steering and have one mystery to solve - there was a gasket/shim between the steering wheel mount on the frame and the steering box - it got blown away by the overzealous sandblast maniac (me) a few years ago. I also found some horseshoe shaped metal shims when I removed the steering box. have a remnant of the gasket/shim that looks like stiff gasket material, but is as thick as two sheets of standard paper. Did you crack open your steering box or remove it from the frame? If so, was there a gasket or shim? Any guesses on the material of the gasket and dimensions?

I am guessing the shim provided fine alignment/adjustment and the metal horseshoes general alignment.

Anyone out there who can determine the composition of the shim material and recommend replacement material?
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Old 15-10-08, 23:54
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Phil, ..... I have to reassemble my steering and have one mystery to solve - there was a gasket/shim between the steering wheel mount on the frame and the steering box - it got blown away by the overzealous sandblast maniac (me) a few years ago. I also found some horseshoe shaped metal shims when I removed the steering box. have a remnant of the gasket/shim that looks like stiff gasket material, but is as thick as two sheets of standard paper. Did you crack open your steering box or remove it from the frame? If so, was there a gasket or shim? Any guesses on the material of the gasket and dimensions?

I am guessing the shim provided fine alignment/adjustment and the metal horseshoes general alignment.

Anyone out there who can determine the composition of the shim material and recommend replacement material?

I encountered shim material on both the Pattern 13 C60S and Pattern 12 C60L never have had the box out of my HUP. Now someplace I have seen something about steering box alignment being a issue with CMPs I'll have to look for the info. Can't remember if it was in manual or service bulletin.

If I remember correctly on the C60S I had very carefully saved the shims but when I installed the body and then the steering box there was binding with the shims and not without so I left them out.
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Old 16-10-08, 10:28
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On a C8AX in NZ, but not on others. I think we left them off when we reassembled the truck, and they are in a box somewhere!

I imagine the state of the rubber cab mounts could affect the alignment of the steering column, yet the mounting bracket below the windscreen has slotted holes I think?

The parts list C8AX shows:

5814779 SHIM Steering Gear bracket (between steering gear and bracket) 1

Hope that helps???

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Old 18-10-08, 00:52
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On a C8AX in NZ, but not on others. I think we left them off when we reassembled the truck, and they are in a box somewhere! I imagine the state of the rubber cab mounts could affect the alignment of the steering column, yet the mounting bracket below the windscreen has slotted holes I think? The parts list C8AX shows:
5814779 SHIM Steering Gear bracket (between steering gear and bracket) 1
Hope that helps??? Rob
Indeed, it does. Some literature states that to check alignment, remove the brace clamp at the upper end of the shaft - "the steering column should lightly contact the rubber insert in the brace". If not, then shims (PN as you indicated) are to be used by loosening the four bolts at the lower end and shimming as necessary. We are also told that we are "never"...to "install shims at one bolt only".

I will play with the shims this weekend.
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Old 20-10-08, 02:50
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We got the news today. Chez Marie will be closing its doors in two weeks time. The fellow who owns the house where Chez Marie is located is not expected to bring it up to code, so the doors will close.

Bob, Grant and I had a moment of silence, which was broken by Bob's question: "Now where are we going to get fat?"

It looks like Mike's Restaurant in Bourget will benefit from our presence...fortunately, it is only a few clicks away from Bob's palace.

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Bob refused to reveal what he was smoking, but the pipe looks familiar:
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Old 04-11-08, 03:51
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I was just browsing this thread when it hit me - the bumper on the HUP seems to be level! Previously, one end of the bumper was an inch and a quarter to two inches higher than the other. It is amazing what a ton of metal (the body) will do to a frame...or is it the Guinness?
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Old 04-11-08, 18:30
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..... aren't you sitting on what was the high side..... hihihi
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Old 04-11-08, 18:57
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Just thinking, Rob.... you might have to increase the length of those propeller blades in order to get it to move under its own steam, and put in a stick to steer with.

Just a thought anyway...
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Old 11-11-08, 19:41
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Just thinking, Rob.... you might have to increase the length of those propeller blades in order to get it to move under its own steam, and put in a stick to steer with. Just a thought anyway...
Geoff,

Thanks for the suggestion, but I think I will eventually use the traditional method of steering and propulsion. The white tips on the fan blades are the result of a short discussion with Phil Waterman, who painted his tips red (red to cover up the red markings that showed up unexpectedly). In both cases, the tips will serve as a reminder to me to keep my fingers out of the path of the fan blades when the old girl is purrin'.

Bob and Grant, Anything happening at the barn?

Oops! Got to go, it is almost 11:00 hrs here in Alberta...

We shall remember.
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Old 11-11-08, 20:26
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Geoff,

Thanks for the suggestion, but I think I will eventually use the traditional method of steering and propulsion. The white tips on the fan blades are the result of a short discussion with Phil Waterman, who painted his tips red (red to cover up the red markings that showed up unexpectedly). In both cases, the tips will serve as a reminder to me to keep my fingers out of the path of the fan blades when the old girl is purrin'.

Bob and Grant, Anything happening at the barn?

Oops! Got to go, it is almost 11:00 hrs here in Alberta...

We shall remember.
Rob,

Just a suggestion, no harm no foul...

We remembered today, at the Cenotaph at Old City Hall in Toronto. Sally joined me in this dank gray day to say a simple "Thank you". There weren't many vets there, but it's all my boss would allow me time off for. Still, I wore my beret and had the privilege of giving a salute at the appropriate times. It was worthwhile.
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Old 19-11-08, 20:41
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Bob, Grant, Is it that cold in the have not province that you can't type? What's been going on? Silence usually means you two are up to something...

I might be able to join you at the barn this weekend as my task out west ended early - pending the Frau's approval...

Anyway, fill us in on the Hammond scene - this traveling Rotter wants to know.
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Finally, after two and a half weeks out west, I made my way back to the centre of the Ottawa CMP universe - Bob's barn in Hammond. Being out of practice, I forgot to bring my camera, but it was a short day, with not much going on. Bob was busy decorating the house with Joyce and Grant was a no show - probably work related absence there.

The morning was a cool minus 10oC with a good stiff wind making it feel like minus 18oC...just the right temp to fire up Lucifer. After finishing some housecleaning chores in the barn, I pulled out the HUP and started fitting the floor plates. All but two are bolted to the floor framework. The two that are not bolted were welded in the back corners of the cab - I cut them out to expose the floor frame which was badly rusted.

The first photo shows my HUP as she looked when I bought her.


The second photo shows the plate lay out.


The two welded plates (A) frame the large floor plate (B) that holds the transfer case shift lever and the fuel tank switch. Two other plates fill the foot wells (D). A smaller plate (C) fits around the gear shift lever, and a small plate fits to the right of the dog house (E).

The two welded plates have to be fitted in a particular manner as they are welded to the side pillers and if not square, will throw off the alignment of the adjoining plates. I took advantage of Bob's presence to get the plates welded in place. After which, I assisted Bob in the arranging of snow clearing lanes around the shelters and main access road. I truly hope we don't get that insane amount of snow this year as we did last year.

After some clean up, I headed home for a late lunch (Chez Marie is now in the history books...for shame).
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