For members in the UK - Chevy C8 info required

[Colin R]

Doe's the Chevrolet C8 require an MOT?
If so would anyone know where I can get info of locations of MOT testers (Preferably down south) who know what there doing with the 'older' vehicle?

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally posted by Colin R
Doe's the Chevrolet C8 require an MOT?

I think so, judging by this snippet from the Ferret Owners Club Newsletter:

The question about MOT "exemption" in the Newsletter is a bit complex because there are a number of different provisions that apply in different circumstances and different area Post Offices have different interpretations.

Firstly, the weight of actual vehicles varies between each other and varies from the specification. Secondly the driver is responsible if the vehicle is unroadworthy - this is true whether or not there is an MOT Certificate in existence. Thirdly, there is not really such a thing as an MOT Exemption - almost all wheeled vehicles aged three years or more require a certificate of roadworthiness. The only problem is that there is no official body that can issue them for vehicles over 3,500kg. The exceptions are oddities for example track layers, steamrollers, road menders etc. Finally, there is further confusion about road tax and driving licence applicability and this has somehow become confused in peoples minds with the MOT.

Hope this helps,
Hanno

[Nick Bullock]

Hi colin

My C8 is subject to MOT testing

I just use the local village garage for MOTs.. So many things seem to be exempt on gounds of age that there isn't really all that much to test... tyres have been the only real problem, But I have managed to solve that one now...

on the other hand both HUA and HUP are exempt... but in many ways thats a greater responsibility than paying for the ticket... no matter what they need to be right before you drive them any where...

but I also recognise that a good relation ship with your local garage can also help on small points... In my experience they don't really want to do the repairs anyway...

kind regards

nick

[Bryan]

The question of MOT exempt has come up in our local Military group. If you vehicle is exempt you can fill in a decleration V112C

if your in uk your vehicle is exempt from a MOT if it falls within any of the following groups.....

(1) motor tractor
(2) track laying vehicles
(3) articulated vehicles not being an articulated bus
(4) works trucks
(5) invalid carriages not exceeding 306kg unladen weight
(6) vehicles used only in passing from land in the occupation of the person keeping the vehicle to other land in his occupation and not used on the road for distances exceeding an aggregate of 6 miles in a calendar week
(7) hackney carriages or private hire cars licensed to ply for hire by certain local authorities authorised to carry out roadworthiness checks on their vehicles
(8) hackney carriages granted licences by Transport for London
(9) vehicles provided for Police purposes and maintained in approved workshop
(10) electrically propelled goods vehicles
(11) tramcars
(12) trolley vehicles that are not auxiliary trolley vehicles
(13)vehicles authorised for use on the roads by a Special Types General Order made under Section 44(3) of the Road Traffic Act 1988
(14) vehicles used exclusively on certain islands that lack a bridge, tunnel, ford, or other suitable way for motor vehicles to be conveniently driven to a road in any part of Great Britain.

Hope this is of help!!

Bryan

[Richard Farrant]

If you have a truck / lorry that would appear to fall in the MoT exemption, it has to be over 3500kg, gross mass weight, that is unladen weight plus the payload. I used to take a customer's Bedford MW for testing and it fell just under 3500 kg, that is unladen weight plus 15 cwt theoretical load.

The correct form for claiming exemption is V112G, as the vehicle tax reminder will probably state "Goods vehicle test certificate required", and on the back it explains this is the form, the other V112 form is for light vehicles in special circumstances.

To quote the relevant paragraph on the V112G;
30. Motor vehicles first used before 1st January 1960, used unladen and not drawing a laden trailer, and trailers manufactured before 1st January 1960 and used unladen.
For the purposes of this paragraph any determination as to when a motor vehicle is first used shall be made as provided in regulation 3(3) of the Construction and Use Regulations. Motor vehicles constructed and not merely adapted for the purpose.

I have just renewed my QL tax disc for about the 18th year so am well accustomed to the procedure now!

Richard

[Colin R]

Many thanks Gentlemen, that makes it clearer.
Shouldn't be a problem getting the vehicle through as its in good condition, Its just annoying that I was told it was tax exempt but not told about how to sort it out.
Yet another job to get done before I can get it out on the road!!!

[Pete Ashby]

Colin

The key as Richard so succinctly puts it is in Para 30 of 112G.

However depending on how many vintage MV's and or Commercials any local VL office has in it's catchment area you may still find a problem convincing the counter staff that what you are proposing is correct. As a result I have over the years adopted a cast iron formulae for dealing with this situation, for what its worth here it is.

Take several good clear photos of your truck ie one side shot and one three-quarter front.

Know what your unladen plus payload weight is, you'll have to work this out in pounds from the literature and then convert this figure to Kg's, show all your work out and how you built up the gross weight and your source data, alternatively put the truck on your local weighbridge and get a stamped ticket.

Have all your paper work to hand in order of presentation; I always start off with the photos to set the scene.

If you still have the 'old style log book take that as well, the 1947 petrol coupon stamps in mine are always a talking point!

Last but not least be pleasant, these people are only doing there job and they have to deal with some right bozo’s during the course of a day. Don't get hot under the collar, if you are failing to get a result ask for the desk manager, smile and start again.

Some people can do all this at their local post office, I have to say I have never managed this and have always gone to the main VL office in Oxford, which since I developed this simple little system has been faultless.

Pete

[Richard Farrant]

Just to add to Pete's good advice...........the V112G form is only available from behind the counter at main post offices. The local PO does not have them, but they are available to download from the DVLA (or whatever they call themselves this week) website.

Richard