Ford CMP at Reynolds

Gordons · #1 12-10-12, 04:22

I was in at Reyolds museum on the weekend to buy a few parts as they are selling off all the odds and ends and found a CMP that is rather odd in that it is left hand drive Ford, with exterior steering box, engine side covers that fold and lift up, odd dash and no engine cover inside the cab, 2 wheel drive with 16 tires. anyone have any idea on the year or model looks like pre 11 or 12 cab.

Yeo.NT · #2 12-10-12, 04:30

I do believe this is a CMP prototype

http://www.mapleleafup.net/forums/showthread.php?t=9020

rob love · #3 12-10-12, 04:49

It looks like one of the late 39 (1940 model year) pilot trucks to me. I was working on the one in Shilo......hopefully I'll be back on it in the new year.

Any idea what the asking price was on this one at Reynolds?

Keith Webb · #4 12-10-12, 06:50

Amazing to see one of the pilot Fords so unmolested and crying out to be saved!

Hanno Spoelstra · #5 12-10-12, 06:58

See Gregg's Blueprint for Victory page 18 - this is the Ford 1939 prototype III, the last prototype model prior to the adoption of RH drive and the standardized Cab 11.

This is truly an amazing find and I am surprised no one mentioned it earlier. Someone should notify the CWM, methinks....

H.

cletrac (RIP) · #6 12-10-12, 07:06

That one wasn't there a couple of years ago.

Mike K · #7 12-10-12, 07:35

You can see its ancestory coming from the Morris Commercial CS8

Mike

Alex van de Wetering · #8 12-10-12, 10:19

Wow, what a find! So, that's the second surviving proto???

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You can see its ancestory coming from the Morris Commercial CS8

Yeah....the ugly cousin of the Morris! Thank god development didn't end with this prototype

aj.lec · #9 12-10-12, 10:57

Definately got Morris and possibly scammell blood in there
I quite like the look

Hopefully it will be picked up by the right hands ,restored and displayed.
A significant piece of CMP history

Rob Fast · #10 13-10-12, 02:08

Let's make sure this stay's in Canada...!

Gordons · #11 15-10-12, 02:50

a few more pic, seems like there are a lot less trucks than there where two years ago, there had to have been close to 40 or 50 CMPS here is the phone number for anyone interested 780-352-5201.

Gordons · #12 15-10-12, 02:57

few more pic

Hanno Spoelstra · #13 17-10-12, 00:07

If you follow the link to the earlier thread provided by Yeo.NT, one will read this is possibly the fourth survivor:

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Originally Posted by Colin Macgregor Stevens

As credentials I'll start off by saying that I have physically touched all three surviving Ford 15 Cwts,

(...)

Here are the Ford limited production types. It has been estimated that 6 or 8 were made. Three of these survive.
1. Dr. Bill Gregg's restored, went to the RCA Musuem in CFB Shilo in 1985 (I did the appraisal). I have photos but none on my web site yet.
2. Gary Moonie has one, partly restored in BC. Old photo from Blueprint For Victory.
3. The Canadian War Museum has one partial one (cab and cowl) in Ottawa. Found by Jim Fraser of Arnprior in the CFB Petawawa area apparently.

Gordons · #14 17-10-12, 02:38

for a little more info se the numbers 404 on the right hand dash, may give a clue to ident

Gordons · #15 07-05-14, 04:15

This early Ford 2WD is still sitting at Reynolds as of May 2, 2014, as are many others including, 13 cabs, 12 cabs, Gun tractors and assortment of others, talking to Byron Reynolds there no longer for sale all the remaining trucks are going to different military museums across the country, when or where ?

servicepub (RIP) · #16 08-05-14, 02:11

These two articles may be of interest;

http://servicepub.wordpress.com/2013...n-army-part-1/

http://servicepub.wordpress.com/2013...n-army-part-2/

Clive

Hanno Spoelstra · #17 11-05-14, 11:14

And still there yesterday - more pics to follow later.

H.

Keith Webb · #18 11-05-14, 13:19

Were you able to get both legs in Hanno?

Richard Farrant · #19 11-05-14, 13:30

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Originally Posted by Hanno Spoelstra

And still there yesterday - more pics to follow later.

Hi Hanno,
Looks like the only way you could drive that would be to relocate the clutch pedal to the cab step !

Hanno Spoelstra · #20 11-05-14, 16:39

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Originally Posted by Richard Farrant

Hi Hanno,
Looks like the only way you could drive that would be to relocate the clutch pedal to the cab step !

Well, you know Richard, where there's a will....

Being LHD makes it easier to drive as well!

H.

servicepub (RIP) · #21 11-05-14, 18:15

Hanno, did you get the vehicle's serial number?
C

Hanno Spoelstra · #22 11-05-14, 23:47

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Originally Posted by servicepub

Hanno, did you get the vehicle's serial number?

Clive,

Bill and I only had little over half an hour before the caretaker had to leave so I could not spend too much time. Not knowing if and where it could have a serial number did not help either. But there's a number stenciled on the dash. I took pictures of all the data plates I saw on the other CMPs. Once I get home I will sort the pictures and post them here.

H.

Gordons · #23 12-05-14, 00:31

Clive some great information, amazing that this truck is still in such good condition.

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Originally Posted by servicepub

These two articles may be of interest;

http://servicepub.wordpress.com/2013...n-army-part-1/

http://servicepub.wordpress.com/2013...n-army-part-2/

Clive

rob love · #24 12-05-14, 04:40

The serial number on the one here in Shilo was on top of the frame over the left front wheel.