Intended Carrier recovery, wisdom sought

[Cornholio]

Happy to hear you made it home in one piece Robin. Thanks for posting your plans to the forum so that John and I could join up with you to witness the recovery and chat it up.

Sincerely,

James Dennis Cornwall M715

[RichardT10829]

i know of a carrier purchased in Toronto a three years back, Mk1 i think.. was chopped but lower hull was very complete with good drive line cost the chap £3000 GBP to purchase and return it to his garage, that includes freight and duties. But with these things price fluctuates massively, bearing in mind a few years back folk still had money to spend. if this carrier is to go up for sale i would give the following humble advice

1) A dealer will always offer you less than a private sale.

2) Europe will command a higher price than the US or Canadian sales.

3) If you are selling over seas advertise it on Milweb.net perhaps offer a package to get the unit to a specific port in with the price as long as the unit is sold within a specific time frame.

4) dont be pursuaded to break the hull and sell the spares you will end up with a tub minus its wheels and tracks and selling the other bits could take some time.

[Lionelgee]

Originally Posted by Lionelgee

G'day Bob,

Your description reminded me of some great photos and descriptions of two carrier recoveries posted on MLU. The first was one where someone in Australia built a raft and floated a carrier across the Murray River. The other one was in Canada where people had tried for two or three snow seasons to liberate a carrier when there was an ice road available.

Does anyone know what has happened to these carriers since they were retrieved?

Can anyone recall the links to these great stories for me so I can follow them again? It would be much appreciated.

Kind Regards
Lionel

Hello All,

I found the threads about unusual carrier recoveries.

Cletracker - Erik - UC recovery part 1 19-03-10, 16:05
http://www.mapleleafup.net/forums/sh...378#post158378
My apologies the recovery took place in Sweden not Canada.

Ian Patrick - Carrier recovery with a difference 05-07-10, 21:50
http://www.mapleleafup.net/forums/sh...ad.php?t=15004

Kind Regards
Lionel

[RichardT10829]

Ian patricks recovery for me has to be the most extreme i have seen.... definately the benchmark for crazy recoveries.... credit to him

[servicepub (RIP)]

Robin,

Bravo Zulu for a great recovery!! Loved reading the tale and wish I had known as I would have gone just to observe and drink a large Timmy's double-double in the cold with you.
Clive

[Bob Moseley (RIP)]

SO WHERE ARE THE PICTURES?

Bob

[Robin Craig]

On page one of this thread Bob!

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[Bob Moseley (RIP)]

My thread on this jumped straight to Page 2 completely missing all the images. Now didn't you enjoy that recovery?

Bob

[Robin Craig]

To update this old thread.

The unit for whom I performed the recovery, have now decided to sell the carrier as they do not have the means to restore it.

They were approached by an individual and have accepted his offer and the carrier is to be moved next week to its new home within 2 hours drive of its current location.

As it is not mine and I do not have the new owners permission I am not divulging his identity or location.

Suffice it to say it is a yard ornament out of my way and hopefully it will get a chance to be back and running some day.

Maybe I will have a chance to snap some pictures when it gets loaded up. I will also ask the new owner if I may post his info.


R

[IanK]

If I'd seen this before I'd have come and helped just for the experience, I'm only just over the border in Plymouth....Ian

[Robin Craig]

Ian,

Cornwall, Ontario, Canada not Cornwall United Kingdom Of Great Britain.

R

[Jon Bradshaw]

I have been hunting eastern ontario for carriers with my father for several years and through another carrier owner I was informed of this carrier. Until today (this post) I had not even seen a picture since as of this summer I have been posted out to Edmonton AB. Thanks Robin for the great stream of pictures and a bit of history on it. My father will be out to get it from your island with a good trailer. Hope the weather is good and it is not frozen again.

Jonathan

[Bob Carriere]

Tell you Dad to show us some pictures on MLU.... I am sure he will need the odd bits and pieces once he gets started.

Bob C

....... from Bee-U-Teeful downtown Hammond, Ontario.

[Jon Bradshaw]

Home is near Belleville ON.

[Robin Craig]

Weather for this week is predicted to be mild. Carrier is sitting on asphalt now.

Intend to use large orange hydraulic assistance to load your dad's new trophy.
Promise to use shackles and proper lifting kit and not damage anything as far as is humanly possible.

Will take as many pictures as I can.

Just waiting for the unit association to give me some direction as per email / phone call.

R

[IanK]

Originally Posted by Robin Craig

Ian,

Cornwall, Ontario, Canada not Cornwall United Kingdom Of Great Britain.

R

I know, just my feeble attempt at humour!

[Robin Craig]

So today was the day for the carrier to get moving once again to Mr Bradshaw senior's place.

As per planning, Kubota KX-080 was on site to assist in load up. I have found with a bit of cunning and guile such items are easily moved using aforesaid tool.

Mr Bradshaw arrived and we latched on suffering only one minor issue in as much as all that weight on the arse end of his trailer was lifting his truck rear wheels off the ground and as I was pulling the freewheeling carrier it was exerting an equal and opposite force which then caused the truck and trailer to move forward, I was moving the whole shooting match!

Suitable blocking was placed in front of the truck wheels and loading resumed.

There really wasn't much wiggle room width wise and I had to exercise care drawing it forward.

Once the right place was reached Mr Bradshaw secured it and I was free to get back to my regular work. There was a picture taken with the usual SEG on the face of the new owner! While he did have a hand winch on the trailer he did say that the excavator was a pleasure to have and was a lot easier than doing it by hand.

There was a minor issue of monies changing hands but it was neither my sale nor my purchase so it isn't for me to comment on that.

Look forward to seeing it live again.

Regards

Robin

[Jon Bradshaw]

The carrier made it to its new home without any issues and is now nestled away indoors for the season. Work may start in the summer but as with all resto's it will take years.

Thanks to Robin for the super sized power assist in loading.

Jon

[Jon Bradshaw]

The usual spot behind the drivers head has been cut off.
On the dash armour in front of the driver there are three symbols - XWo.
On the back at the back left of the armour it is - 26948 after that there is a "C" with a vertical line through it.
On the left of the air inlet above the gunners head - TL1277TL.

Any help in getting some history would be appreciated.

[Michael R.]

Any help in getting some history would be appreciated.

IMHO:

Ford Canada, Windsor Ontario
No. 2 Mk. II*
Spring of 1944. Contract 2609
Modified for flame thrower installation.

You may find the serial number for the engine on the block. If it is the original block, the number on the block may be 2,000 higher that what the Carrier upper hull number would have been, and 1,000 higher than the production serial number.

The number TL1277TL you wrote about may in fact be TL12771L, a portion of the engine ventilator. That would be the part number, not related to serial number data.

[Jon Bradshaw]

Thanks for the info, a flame carrier eh? That might be an little different for the restoration. Now I need to look more closely at the flame mods.