Iltis re-born

Darrell Zinck · #1 16-05-05, 19:27

Nice to see the retired Afghan Iltis' aren't being neglected!!

regards
D

Jon Skagfeld · #2 17-05-05, 01:20

Looks like Canadian EME types have way too much time on their hands.

Isn't that an LSVW in the background?

Maybe the Afghanis can put them to use as well.

In the meantime, let's keep buying Silverado MILCOTs as our Iltis replacement!

chris vickery · #3 17-05-05, 01:48

That's just plain wrong... Probably effectively defended as all troops would be laughing too hard to hit it! Would also look right at home in a "Pride" parade.

Craig Tanner · #4 17-05-05, 19:12

Darrell !! It's been a while since London.... I hear that you are comming out east. Hope to bump into you, not with a vehicle though... Still have your volkswagen?

Chris! I think that the Iltis looks great. This type of "modification" is done as a morale and demonstration of skills and imagination type of event for the various EME trades, and vehicles like these are produced in their spare time, or on any down time on operations, using only items of scrap or what is lying around, showing ingenuity and superior skills of their trades (something from nothing kind of idea). There is one here in Gagetown that one of the units enter in various events to show the colours of the EME branch, like they have in the photo above.

The MILCOTS is replacing the Iltis in PRes units only. It will be used as supplemental to LSVW cgo/pax veh in RegF trg estab only, and will not be dist to line units, nor will it be deployed. PRes Armd Recce Regts will be issued the GWAGEN as their primary cbt veh. (From Bill Mullholland)

And last, for the LSVW. They certainly are not what we would want but I have never been in a similar vehicle that performs better in the deep muck in bull low. I have never been stuck in one, and I have certainly put a few kms in the back 40 in Gagetown and several kms abroad in them.

But in the end, this is just one dumb grunt's opinion....mine, of course!!!

Craig Tanner
Oromocto N.B.

Darrell Zinck · #5 17-05-05, 21:36

Hi Craig

Good to hear from you again!! Yes, I'm off to the 8th Hussars in Moncton in late August. We'll have to marry-up sometime soon.

You are correct in your assessment of this "project" by our Wrenches in Afghanistan.

I also agree the LSVW ain't so bad and almost impossible to get stuck. Just like the Iltis was. You can't compare with a Gelandwagen, that's for sure. We got a good life out of the Iltis and if someone wants to use it as an AFV to patrol a warzone in, well, that's their mistake. Don't write them off just because they were being used in a role they weren't meant to fill. G-wagen ain't no bargain either. Maintainence is proving to be a bitch both here and there. Trust me, I just ran x2 dvr courses on them. Nice but again not comparable to the ole Iltis in alot of ways.

I think this mod job is great!!

regards
Darrell

sapper740 · #6 30-05-05, 22:00

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Originally posted by Craig Tanner
And last, for the LSVW. They certainly are not what we would want but I have never been in a similar vehicle that performs better in the deep muck in bull low. I have never been stuck in one, and I have certainly put a few kms in the back 40 in Gagetown and several kms abroad in them.

I'm with you Craig! I think the LSVW is a great little truck. I heard all sorts of bad reports about the LSVW and approached using the vehicle with some trepidation until I was sent to Op Marcot '98 in Stephenville, Nfld. where I had unlimited use of one for a month at Camp Indianhead. No matter how much sh*t and kit I loaded in it it never got stuck in the loose sand around the camp, and best of all, it was still small enough to fit through the local Tim Horton's drive thru! By the way, I hold the unofficial world speed record for the LSVW on flat land with no tail wind. I started at one end of the two mile long runway and floored it. She soon started bucking and shaking, and it took almost the entire length of the runway, but I had her up to 110km/hr! Unfortunately, she broke up on re-entry somewhere over Labrador! Great vehicles!

Craig Tanner · #7 31-05-05, 02:27

Just curious Derek, what unit were you with on MARCOT, US Marines, Cdn Engrs? I was in 2RCR (2nd Battalion the Royal Canadian Regiment) at that time, although I missed that ex, all of my Coy was there. I was posted and was LOB for that ex.

Craig Tanner
Oromocto N.B.

sapper740 · #8 31-05-05, 04:32

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Originally posted by Craig Tanner
Just curious Derek, what unit were you with on MARCOT, US Marines, Cdn Engrs? I was in 2RCR (2nd Battalion the Royal Canadian Regiment) at that time, although I missed that ex, all of my Coy was there. I was posted and was LOB for that ex.

Craig Tanner
Oromocto N.B.

I was a reservist with 192 Airfield Engineer Flight from Abbotsford, B.C. Airfield Engineers were a new concept in 1996 to give the Air Force additional personnel to supplement the various Airfield Engineer Squadrons throughout Canada. Our unit included a Field Engineer section to operate our DAREOD. We were attached to 19 Wing in Comox, B.C., but our HQ was in Cold Lake. (A uniquely Canadian arrangement.) Our training and kit was all Field Engineer, with some specialized training to support the Air Force, but our element was air so our DEU's were blue, although we wore the Engineer Beaver on our berets. Engineers being in short supply, we supplemented exercises and deployments throughout Canada and the world. At Marcot '98 Engineers were drawn from all over Canada to set up the tent city for over a 1000 people as well as generators and mobile arrestor gear at the runway. We also played OPFOR during the attack. I met a lot of people at Marcot 98, and although it was a bag drive for the most part, had a good time and lots of fond memories. The Engineer school was moved to Gagetown, so there's probably some of my old buddies running around your neck of the woods. Cheemo!

Darrell Zinck · #9 31-05-05, 19:06

Ouch!!

I do hope you mean "Chimo" before a bunch of Field Engineers show up at your doorstep in Texas!!

regards
D

011- The first MOC

sapper740 · #10 01-06-05, 00:02

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Originally posted by Darrell Zinck
Ouch!!

I do hope you mean "Chimo" before a bunch of Field Engineers show up at your doorstep in Texas!!

regards
D

011- The first MOC

Haff yoo ever mett a Hungineer hoo cud spel?

Darrell Zinck · #11 01-06-05, 02:40

Touche'

As long as you're slagging youself, who am I to argue!!

regards
D

(FE as a Bro-in-law )

sapper740 · #12 01-06-05, 23:00

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Originally posted by Darrell Zinck
Touche'

As long as you're slagging youself, who am I to argue!!

regards
D

(FE as a Bro-in-law )

Your poor sister!!!

Didn't get to meet very many zipperheads, there being no AFV's west of the Rockies any more. Our DAREOD didn't count as an AFV as it was used for EOD at airfields only. Met an RCD Sargeant while in the Golan Heights, he was a good sh*t. He organized a rifle team and we challenged Polbat to a friendly shooting competition. We shot our C7's, and then swapped them to the Poles and shot a course of fire with their AK 74's. They weren't too happy about getting beat by a bunch of Engineers and Supply types! Can't for the life of me remember the Sarge's name, but I remember he had the coolest tattoo....A coil of barbed wire around his bicep with ragged remnants of his service ribbons blowing in the wind. Only tattoo I ever considered getting. Ya'll take care and keep them Leopards runnin'! CHIMO!

Jon Skagfeld · #13 02-06-05, 04:14

So, the "Hungineer" finally admits to the correct spelling of "Chimo" vice "Cheemo"!