Track jack handle

[derk derin]

Does anybody have an original Track Jack handle 17081?
I cannot find any images of an original one anywhere. Rob said they were just a commercial jack handle. I found an image of a Ford Model T jack handle that is very similar but the drawing of the track jack handle in the carrier manual has an offset kink at the end and a square notched out (I’m thinking to adjust your brake tensioner for the rear brakes) and the other end is slightly angled.
I believe there were jack handles made specifically for the carrier using the Ford designed handle they had for the model T but cannot find any proof.
I have the jack handle for the Walker hydraulic jack which has the same part number and could also be used with the track jack but would like to know about the other designed handle illustrated with the track jack.
Does anybody have information on this handle?
Thanks,Derk

[Tony Smith]

That handle shown in the Parts Catalog as 17061 was also common issue the Ford CMPs as well.

Very multi-purpose tool. As well as adjusting the brakes, the kink on the end fitted large size sockets, one that adjusted the 6 sided bearing retainer nut on the front hub of 4x4 CMPs, and another that fitted the 8 sided bearing retainer nuts on the rear of most Ford Trucks, including CMPs and Carriers. I'm sure the 8 sided scoket would also be carried as a Carrier toll.

See pic of bar and both sockets in THIS POST.

[Colin Alford]

Derk,

I am not currently near any of my reference material, but will do my best to point you in the right direction.

The Ford basic part number for all jack handles (even current production) is 17081. The prefix and suffix denote the actual application.

For the Carriers, there are 3 "Jack" handles that were part of the original tool kit: One for the Walker Hydraulic Jack, one for the Track jack; and one (the one circled in red on your image) which is used with the Rear wheel bearing socket and engine oil drain plug socket (images in Tony's link).

(The following is based on memory and may need correction) The handle that you already have for the Walker Hydraulic Jack is C01UC 17081 (might have a suffix), The one with various bends I believe is a C01Q 17081, and the one used with the track jack is a 78-17081.

I have all three handles, and can provide images, but not until this evening.

A couple of years ago there was a thread which included some discussion between B Harris and Rob Love which included images of 78-17081.

Colin

[Colin Alford]

Derk,

Here is the thread with images of 78-17081 (scroll down to post #16):

http://www.mapleleafup.net/forums/sh...ad.php?t=22527

[rob love]

Derk
I think the notch on the handle shown might be to lower a hydraulic jack as opposed to being for adjustment of the carrier brakes. That said, it would be awkward working with a notch in the handle like that. But if it is hard to work the hydraulic jack release valve, imagine how hard it would be to get quarter turns behind the backing plates in the tight area behind the axle armour protection plate.



As Colin mentions, the 17801 will be the group number from Ford for jack handles as opposed to a part number specifically. There will be letters and or numbers (or a combination, depending on when the prefix was initially created) denoting what vehicle the item was originally designed for, along with a suffix denoting changes in the item.


There is one of the handles ( 78 17801 ) with the commercial number currently on ebay. They come up regularly. https://www.ebay.com/itm/31361427490....c100667.m2042


Knowing Derk, he will not be happy with the commercial handle though, as it is too easy to get. He will want the military handle. I am attaching a photo of the track jack in use to compress the springs. Note which handle is in use. Yes, it is the 78-17801.

[derk derin]

I knew somebody would have a photo of the jack handle in question. Thank you Tony, and everyone else who responded. Now that I know it does exist, let the hunt begin!
Rob, you know me too well, with my OCD, I cannot just accept a close example of a civilian jack handle, it has to be the proper one! The fun is trying to find these items anyway.
That is basically the last tool I am looking for to complete my carrier tool list (I think) besides variants of the tools in question!
Thank you everyone.
Regards,Derk