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Dear colleagues !
What is it ? Your opinions ? Click on image to enlarge. http://cgi.ebay.de/Foto-Deu-Beute-Fa...d=232479227049 |
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Looks to be Pattern 12 Ford Water Truck probably f60 134 inch wheel base, though from the picture can not tell if the tank unit is Allied.
Cheers Phil
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I cannot find any evidence of F60S lorries being sent to Egypt...in fact there were no F60S chassis ordered by the British Ministry of Supply until 1943ish. Could it in fact be a F30 ordered under S/M 2003 which as we know were delivered direct to Alexandria?
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Hi David
That is certainly interesting delivery and shipping data you have access to that dissevers a thread of its own I'd love to know what other little gems of information your source may have, but that's a different topic. Back to identifying the photo, your comment made me reexamine the photo for points which would clarify F30 vs F60, and on closer examination I did note that the truck has the smaller brake drums as used on F30s in the photo below note the space between drum and rim. One point of clarification that someone may be able to add is at which point did they shift from the smaller drums as used with 16" rims on the larger trucks. Were the the smaller drums and smaller ball units only used on the C30 and F30 My reason for identifying the subject truck as being the 134 wb vs 101 or 158 wb is the space between end of gas tank and rear tires, to much space for the 101 and not enough for the 158 wb. Can anyone add any information about the tank plumbing is a water or fuel tank from what can be seen? Cheers Phil
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The information has been gleaned from years of research, acquired from amongst other places, the Canadian National Archives.
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The same seller has a photo of a FAT with limber and 25 pouder in German management, on EBAY also:
GERMANY_Fahrzeug gepanzert aus England in Afrika_antikfuchs-ebay_May2011.jpg
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Phil I think the 6" steering ends (along with type 400 steering box) were not introduced until well into cab 13 production. This cab 12 has the smaller type 375 steering box. So the point I'm making is both F60S and F30 had the same steering, but usually the F30 was fitted with 16" rims. Pity there aren't more images.
In any case I'd say it is definitely not a F60L. I've not seen this tank configuration on the back before - perhaps it has been adapted from another vehicle? Quote:
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Possibly it was a version assembled & used in the Middle East only? Quote:
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The auctions just closed. Unbelievable prices:
Euro 406 for the Water Tank Blitz Euro 335 for the Gun Tractor
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