Mystery Shifter in M38A1CDN2

Mike Baker · #1 10-08-10, 22:58

Another mystery regarding my M38A1CDN2 (probable 67-07840):

As I have limited experience with these vehicles, I went up to the Ashton Garrison Museum this morning to take a look at their M38A1CDN2, and took note of a couple of significant differences that I cannot explain. Thus, if anyone can explain these, it would be appreciated:

1) Mine has four shifters - the one for the transmission, the two for 4wd, and another one in between them which has a yellow-painted knob on it. I will try to post a photo when I get home, and hopefully this weekend I can get underneath to find out what it's attached to. But if anyone has any ideas between now and then, please let me know.

2) In mine, the e-brake handle is the same as in most cars today - handle at the front and lever at the rear. The museum version is opposite this. Does anyone know which was standard and why it may have been changed? This could also be related to #1 above.

3) I have the standard rifle rack inside the passenger door, but I also have what appears to be another rifle rack in between the seats, which the museum version did not. Was this a standard feature?

Thanks in advance,

Mike

Scott Bentley · #2 10-08-10, 23:36

Mike,

Does your Jeep have a winch? PTO maybe?

Aftermarket Saturn Overdrives would also give you an extra shifter.

Scotty

Jon Skagfeld · #3 10-08-10, 23:44

Bracket between seats would have been for an SMG, therefore the Ansul 5# fire extinguisher would have been dash mounted.

Alex Blair (RIP) · #4 11-08-10, 01:24

The extra levers are for the winch and Power Take Off(PTO)..
Get the proper manuals from Grant Bowker..I believe this is the parts manual you require..Get the maintenance manual while you are at it..
You'll need both anyway..

#72: 594 pages CV-32 CDN. ORDNANCE CATALOGUE PARTS LIST FOR TRUCK, UTILITY, 1/4 TON, 4X4, M38CDN. TRUCK, UTILITY, 1/4 TON, 4X4, M38AICDN. (ILLUSTRATED) JULY 1957.(Includes PTO and winch)
Good luck with the new truck.

rob love · #5 11-08-10, 01:59

Without a photo, this is pure speculation. My money says it is a overdrive, which could require the relocation of the park brake handle. But the photos will say it all. You mentioned in another thread that this jeep had a crash pad installed. Sounds like it had a few civilian improvements, which makes me lean towards the overdrive vice a PTO.

Mike Baker · #6 11-08-10, 03:39

The winch and PTO - of course. I didn't think of the winch because it's one of the few things missing. And the extinguisher bracket is, in fact, on the dash so SMG bracket it is.

WRT the crash pad, I have a theory that it was actually a CF addition, albeit not one approved by Ottawa. As I also posted in a different thread, the windshield frame on this truck is light blue underneath the green and black camoflage. I suspect that something happened to the original windshield frame, and some enterprising V-tech got a CJ5 frame from the scrap yard to replace it. The pad has also been painted green (it's black underneath).

Many thanks for the answers - pics are attached below for 2nd and 3rd opinions...