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Old 19-05-09, 17:39
Darian Carn Darian Carn is offline
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Default 6 Pounder A/T Gun (Aust)

G'day All,

We have finally started to restore our 6 Pdr Gun, but need some help and assistance with a couple of things.

Firstly, our Gun is missing the Lower "hinged" Sheild. I've taken some measurements from the upper sheild, but really need the over-alls and the positions of the "cut-outs" for the stabiliser legs. There are various different lower sheilds, and depending on the country of manufacture, some have no cut-outs, some have partial rectangular cut-outs (as the Australian one has) and some have elongated slots that go all the way to the bottom of the sheild with straps over the ends (as the US 57mm). As far as I can tell from photographs that I have been able to find, we need the lower sheild with the rectangular cut-outs, as the one that the Jacques Littlefield Collection has.

If anyone has access to a 6 Pdr Gun (Australian) and would be able to give me more detailed measurements (and drawings) that would be great. I can "guess-timate" it if I have too, but would prefer to get it right first off.

We are also missing all of the sighting gear, sight holder, etc. and if anyone can help out, or steer me in the right direction, I would be grateful. The sighting gear is slightly different on the variuous different country guns but they are so close that having any sighting gear would really help to complete the gun.

The "Shoulder Stock" (the side-ways u-shaped piece) is also missing so any help or assistance whether that be measurements, drawings, templates, patterns, etc - or even the spare one that you have out-the-back - would be great also.

Measuremants and details of the Hand Spikes that go in the leg of the trail as well, please.

In fact any 6 Pdr Parts, no matter how big or small, help or any assistance would be greatly appreciated.

Attached are a few photographs of Jacques Littlefield's Gun showing the pieces mentioned.

Here's hoping I haven't scared everyone off!!

With Many Thanks,

KInd Regards,

Darian.
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Old 19-05-09, 20:48
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Default 6 pounder

I've got spare hubs and rims which I no longer require. I'm in W.A.
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Old 20-05-09, 00:41
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G'day Wayne,

Many Thanks, but we are right for thr rims and hubs. I should have re-edited the photo with the rim circled to just show the lower sheild.

Am looking for tyres though - 8.25 x 10.00's - if anybody can help.

Cheers,

Darian.
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Old 20-05-09, 06:16
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Hello Darian,

I have a section of the lower vertical shield, rusty, abused and oxy cut off but does have a steel data plate attached which positively ID's it as 6 Pdr...

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Old 20-05-09, 07:41
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Darien

Do you have a copy of the 1944 GMH colour movie ? It has footage of the new 6 pounders being test fired on a range . They show them being transported on a LL Chevy and trailer and unloading ..the army chaps are very casual .. firing them off
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Old 20-05-09, 09:13
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G'day Wayne,

Many Thanks, but we are right for thr rims and hubs. Am looking for tyres though - 8.25 x 10.00's - if anybody can help.

Cheers,

Darian.
Darian, have you read the first posting in This Thread?

I understand your options are solid tyres from a Forklift, cannabalise a 4.2" Mortar, or find some F8/ C8 13" rims and fit 9.00-13s which just clear the sheild.
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Old 20-05-09, 15:32
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Default 6 Pdr Parts

G'day All,

Thanks for the replies.

Phill,

We have (I believe) all the sheilds and data plates, but missing only the very bottom hinged section of the sheild. Not having seen one I don't know whether this has a data plate or not - is this the section that you have, or is it the section that small vertical section comes up in front of the sloping main sheild?

Mike,

No, I don't have a copy of the 1944 GMH colour movie. Where did you get yours from, and are copies still available? I would love to get a copy for my records. Any further info would be great.

Mr. Smith (Tony),

Yes, I have thanks, both read and kept my eyes on that thread and post, but it soon switches to other size tyres. Just thought I'd ask as not everyone goes back over the old threads and there are some newer forum members that may just have the odd one laying around. You never know!! We do have a 4.2" Mortar, but I don't want to cannabilise that.


Is, or are, there any other 6 Pounder A/T Guns out there?

I remember seeing a thread that was a show up Cooma way where there was a photo of a 6 Pdr but the lower sheild is hidden behind sand bags. Then theres the one at Royal Australia Infantry Corps Museum.

Ours is the one from the Melbourne Tank Museum (ex John Bellfield). There were another two here in South Australia a long time ago, but one went to the Australian War Memorial and the other to the Jacques Littlefield Collection (pictured above).

If anyone can help with the Lower hinged sheild and sighting gear that would be fantastic.

A couple of shots of our gun - back then on a friends place before it finally came back home and in the workshop being dismantled ready for blasting.

Thanks again,

Cheers,

Darian.
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Old 20-05-09, 15:43
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Default 6 Pdr Gun Dismantling

A few more shots of the Gun being disassembled.

Darian.
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