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Used sea container
I am negotiating with a few local Ottawa companys that supply sea cans. They ain't giving them away. I guess they figure we are all rich here in the nation's capital (not to be confused with the other nation's capital down river).
Anyone in the greater Ottawa/Montreal area have a line on sea can suppliers from outside of the city of Ottawa? Locking for high cube boxes - prefer 20 foot high cube, but will entertain a 40 foot high cube. Should be fun wrestling into the Hammond barnyard...will tackle that challenge once the can is found and delivered.
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We at work have 5 of hem and I have one on rental.
Their value depends on many things and fluctuates. First off don't get mistaken about what you are buying. The "real" sea cans are different from the "one ship" cheapies that come from china. The "real" ones are the used ones and the "one ship" look a lot nicer. Lowest we paid for a real 20 ft one was $2800 delivered all in a few years ago. The delivery is what kills you. R |
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The secret is.......
....finding a contractor that has finished with a job site and would rather get rid of his used container cheap than pay to have it moved...... but that requires a lot of networking..... and means of moving it or have it moved cheaply and rapidly.
A twenty footer can be moved by Gervais towing with their tilt and load tow trucks.... a quote from a few years ago was $600 from Hawthorne depot to Hammond barn. So you can buy it for $2500 and pay to have it moved or they will sell youone and move it for you for $3200 using Gervais as the mover....!!!!! go figure. We could get a better price per unit if we could pick it up in Montreal or Toronto...... but would need to fabricate a support system on our 5 ton barn float and then pay for diesel back and forth...... if we had 10 sea cans to move it might be worth our while but for one or two not a money saving proposition. Still waiting for one to fall from the sky......gently !!!!!! Bub ....phrum the barn
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Keep an eye on craigslist. There was a nice hicube 40' with double doors installed halfway along one side listed in the Fraser Valley recently for about $1500. I think it sold within a day...I tried to get my mitts on it.
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Hint guys, as I am looking as well.
Buy a 40ft, you will use the space. The 20ft cans command premium prices. A 20ft can costs about double what a 40ft can costs. Makes sense right? In the case od sea cans, you get what you pay for, especially when dealing with a dealer. A cheap can may seem a good deal but when it leaks all over your stuff and the doors don't close, the value will be realized. Best advice- heavy equipment auction- do not use a dealer of sea cans Hire a heavy equipment company with a Landoll trailer who can slide it off right into place. Failing that, be prepared to hire a 35 ton boom truck to lift off a transport and place where you like ( 4hrs minimum at $150/hr) The most recent cans I saw went for $1200 to $1800 at auction plus transport.
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some corrections needed.
A 20 foot can is $3200 in Ottawa .... a 40 is $4500 so they are not cheaper.
Similar price for TO based advertising in Auto trader, 40 footer requires a crane for $$$$ a 20 footer I can move around with my old farm tractor and a home made axle at my leisure. 20 foot can will fit and can be delivered with a tilt and load tow truck...Gervais towing makes living doing just that... 40 footers require the special trailer for can and a tractor truck to move it.... they would not be able to manoeuvre my barn driveway and would need to dump by the road with a crane waiting to move it. All in all a 20 footer is much more practical One more thing Rob found out..... 20 footer high cubes demand a top price due to demand/short supply...... 40 footer high cubes a more readily available. I agree that dealers are the worst place to buy them from.... construction sites when major contract are over....contractors have already charged for the container cost in the contract..... they are trying to cut there losses short by selling them cheap.....rather than pay to have them moved into storage somewhere not knowing when they will used them again and move them again..... problem is finding out where these deals are..... and you have to be prepared to move them fast at your cost...... Bob
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Hiab
I used to Move 20ft Containers for the odd Construction Contractor with the Building Supply Company I worked for.
The average Move was approx $100 dollars local .No more than $200 around town. I used a Hiab 200 mounted on a Kenworth with a a 17 foot Flat deck. Most contractors avoided the Tow Companies due to the cost ,The Hiab Truck mounted crane can place the Container Most anywhere. Jeff |
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Another idea just came to mind and may be cheaper. Have you considered a 48ft van trailer? Get it towed into place, jack up the rear, cut off the axles and drop it. Used van trailers are dirt cheap.
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Chris is onto something. If you need the structural strength of a container, then you need a seacan. If you just need closed storage, a condemned semi trailer is as good as anything.
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Terry, I have seen guys do this in two ways; either knock the dollies and rear axle off and set on the ground or dig a big hole for the rear axles to drop down into.
The better semi trailers are the insulated reefers, they are stronger and have less chance of condensation The oine issue you need to think about on seacans is that they will condensate on the inside- they are made of steel inside and out so many guys spray foam the roof on the inside ($$$). The other alternative is to use a roof top whirly bird to encourage ventilation. I was just on Kijiji and saw a guy who has a bunch of 45 and 48ft van trailers in Toronto at $1200 each. Another suggestion if you want smaller is to look at a truck wrecker for a 20 to 28ft van body off of a moving van/cargo truck.
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Chris makes a valid point on condensation. I have two 40 ft. ventilated containers filled with antique cars & have no condensation problem.
There are sealed & ventilated containers available. The ventilation is simply a few small holes drilled in each corner with a shield over it. This seems to allow enough air to circulate but will not admit mice. The other important factor is allowing air to circulate under the container. The two I mentioned are sitting on very solid footing with a single railroad tie under each end. Last edited by Hanno Spoelstra; 11-07-12 at 08:48. Reason: Formatting |
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Container supplier
If you are interested in a container I deal with accompany in Toronto with pickup in Mtl. The company is Easy Access Storage Co. And ask to speak to Harold. if you buy more than one he can be negotiated. tel:1-866-676-6686
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I have owned two 20's and a 40' for many years and the best advice I could give anyone is:- Do Not sit your container on the ground long term unless in a very dry climate or very well drained location.
:- Do install a whirly gig ventilator in the roof or even better construct a basic roof with an air gap. This can be as simple as lengths of used decking resting on a number of cross timbers and held down with a couple of crosswise pipes and chains or cables. If the roof is given fall by using thicker timber at one end this allows allows the container to be set up level. The tops of containers are flat and tend to have bellies in which water accumulates and it can require quite a tilt to run it off. A more sophisticated roof can be constructed to attach at the corner lift/lock fittings without the need to drill a hole in the box. Condensation can be a real problem and I have seen a great deal of materiel damaged because people thought that putting by it in a container they couldn't go wrong and it would be perfectly preserved when they opened the doors again David
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