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Old 15-06-08, 00:09
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Default Work on My F8, No. 11

In the three days since the truck arrived, my friends and I have been able to:

Remove 8 of the 12 lug nuts from the rim that has a blown tire. (managed to only break the weld on one stud..... )

Removed both doors. The hinges required a bit of penetrating oil.. The rust rabbits have been at work on the bottom corners of both doors on the hinge side. However, the recent thread on door repair took care of any anxiety I had about fixing them back to normal....

Removed one of the two seats completely and one rail on the driver's side seat. By the way, most of the springs for the seats are present. Have contacted a local upholsterer for the resto job on them. I have one of the seat back covers to go by for material and plenty of pictures on what the finished product shold look like. A trip to a hardware store will take care of the missing springs!

Removed all but 8 bolts on the seam that separates the top from the lower back side of the cab as well as free up the bottom of the windshield. Couldn't figure out how to remove the fastenings (?) from the top and decided to have a closer look when the top was removed.

Straightened out one fender......for the most part..... Began taking the bolts off on the other one. Half way done with as many snapped off as taken out clean......

Started work this morning at 6 AM and worked until 11 AM as daytime temps are now above 100 degrees fahrenheit and will remain so for at least the next 4 months....

Have attached some pictures of the worst parts of the body where the rust rabbits have been having a banquet. Also, there's a picture of the engine compartment which shows some white stuff coming out of the sides which are next to the driver and the passenger. Is this asbestos? Also attached is a picture of the interior that shows a pale blue beneath the white top coat. Were the F8s' interior painted a different color that the exterior?

That's all for now!

Regards,
Jim
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Old 15-06-08, 04:33
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Default Do not despair.......

....nothing there a good body man could not fix in 15 minutes.....

Seriously..... you're on the right track...... take stock of what you have and what you need..... then the quest begin...... sad part is ..... it never ends.

Whatever you do....take time to enjoy it.... you have a rather unique vehicle .... parts do not grow on trees...... but you will be amazed at what you will find as many parts are interchangeable with Civvy Ford components..... half the fun is finding out which ones!!!!

Welcome to the asylum.

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Old 15-06-08, 04:39
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Default Be careful.....

The inside of the engine compartment was insulated with a 1/4 inch soft asbestos panels ....... dispose of it carefully...... best bet is to spray it heavy with paint to cake the asbestos.....remove, bag it and dispose carefully..... a proper toxic dump center is not a bad idea.

What you have to be concerned with is the dust that may be released when you rip out whatever is left...... usually rodents have removed the better part for nesting material...... look for some mutant mouse with two heads around 20 pounds...... hihihi

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Old 15-06-08, 18:13
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Bob:
Thanks for the kind words and the heads-up on the asbestos! Will proceed with all due care!

Regards,
Jim
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Old 16-06-08, 04:22
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Default Asbestos

The good thing about the asbestos is that it was mined in Quebec, and the industry thought it was doing the right thing for progress. There are at least two mineral compositions that get lumped together (edited - and are collectively known as asbestos). One is worse than the other.

Here's my free internet advice on the h-a-z-m-a-t removal. The danger is not the big chunks, but the loose airborne dust and fibre. There are all sorts of workplace health and safety rules about workers involved in the task, and then to dispose of it afterwards. After watching Norm Abrams and This Old House, I know the New England states have very tough rules about what can and cannot be done. Look around your state's regulations to find out how to do this job within the law.
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Old 19-06-08, 00:15
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Default Jim's F8 Restoration - Update

Well, it's Day 8 (I'm counting from the day the truck arrived.) and the following has been accomplished: (in spite of over 105 degree Fahrenheit for each of those days which has limited working time to 4 hours each morning!)

The front fenders have been removed.
The doors have been removed.
(All the sheet metal forming the outside skin on the front of the cab was removed when I received the truck)
All the bolts that hold the bottom have of the back of the cab have beem removed.
All the bolts (except one) that hold the top and the back half together have been removed.
The windshield wiper motors (which I believe will work when cleaned up) were removed.
After 8 days the remaining 2 nuts of the twelve that hold the two halves of the split rim together were freed. Replacement of the tire blown during shipping can proceed.
The windshield top and bottom brackets were loosened.
The inside top panel above the steering wheel column was removed along with a Chevrolet heater. Have attached pictures of that little gem.

Have not removed the body parts as I am hoping for a visit from my body person who lives nearby. I wanted him to see all before we completed this step. All in all, with the help of some friends things are moving along quite nicely!

I do have a deadline to get everything stripped off the frame as the agreement with my neighbor to keep my Kubel in his garage was for 30 days only (set firmly in cement by his wife....) I've got 22 days to go and all is looking good!

More to follow!

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Jim
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Old 19-06-08, 22:05
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Default Day 9

Temerature over 110 F today. All the metal is hot, hot, hot to the touch. Almost tried that technique shown in that German news clip from Afrika to fry an egg......(didn't have the requisite Panzer to use though.....)

Work proceeded with the following accomplished:

Removed the top panel covering the passenger (left) side of the cab. (Picture of front end attached.)

Removed the instrument cluster. All the plates are present and in fairly good, readable condition. All the switches are frozen, though. (Picture attached.)

Removed the horn.

Installed a tire and rim on the driver's side to see if I really need to replaced the bushings and king pin immediately. Wobble seems to be related to the wheel bearing.

The one stud that was broken when trying to remove its nut from the split rim will be welded tomorrow. This will enable to intall the tire and roll the vehicle around. Needed to get that done so we could remove the bed.

More to come!
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Old 22-06-08, 17:53
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Default Day 12

Took Day 10 off to do errands: grocery shopping, haircut, and buy tools.
Day 11 and today, removed more internal body panels, the tail gate (which still has that little folding step on the inside) the windshield, roof and back bottom half of the cab.

Rewelded the stud on the split rim and reinstalled the tire and wheel back on the truck. Rubber on all four for the first time in 11 days!

Rechecked the king pins and definitely will need new bushings and more than likely, king pins as well.

Rounded up some sleepy neighbors at 7:00 AM this morning to push the truck out of the garage and turn it around so that the bed is facing the driveway. Am going to pull off the bed onto my trailer so that we can disassemble it.
Found another picture on the forum of a bed similar to mine (see picture.) I believe that mine must have originally had a wireless bed.

It's forecast to be 114 F today so have quit for the day!

Regards,
Jim
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Old 22-06-08, 19:44
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Jim, those beds are the 1A1 or 1A2 that have been lengthened by someone. You'll have to get it back to its original length and make up a set of lockers between the box and the cab. I can send you a cd with all the dimensions if you want. It looks like you've got the original front piece there too.
You can tell if your truck is a wireless version by looking under the hood. The wireless ones had copper grounding straps joining every body panel to help reduce static interference. They also used a shielded power wire to the coil for the same reason.
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Old 22-06-08, 20:18
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David:
That CD covering the lockers would be much appreciated. Email me and I'll send you my address. If there's any cost advise and I'll remind same.

By the way, how were the lockers affixed to the frame. And, how many gas tanks were there? The one I have seems rather short. Also, from what I can tell there might have been some sort of a wood platform on the Fords for all that that was placed right behind the cab. If that's so, where can I find the specs? And, where can I find the spare tire holder or plans for one?

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Jim
PS Checked on those copper grounding straps and none are present.
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Old 31-01-09, 22:00
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Hi Jim;

I’m curious, what is the significance of the Ontario Provincial Flag affixed to the bumper - is it because the home of the Queen’s Own Rifles is located in Ontario?

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Old 01-02-09, 02:45
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Mark,
Actually it was because the Ford F8 was manufactured in Ontario. I also have the Canadian flag which was the official flag for Canada from 1922 through 1957 which I will use when displaying the truck in the future. The Ontario plate will not be used then.

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Jim
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Old 01-02-09, 18:23
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Mark,
Actually it was because the Ford F8 was manufactured in Ontario. I also have the Canadian flag which was the official flag for Canada from 1922 through 1957 which I will use when displaying the truck in the future. The Ontario plate will not be used then.

Regards,
Jim
Thanks Jim, I never thought of the fact that it was manufactured in Ontario. The Canadian Red Ensign is a good choice for when displaying the truck.

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Old 22-05-09, 21:52
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Default New Tires from MRF

Finally got around to installing the new MRF tires I purchased from Tony at Ag Tyres. I am pleased to advise that they do ride much better than the originals that came with the truck! They are 6 ply nylon and have a firm ride.

They do handle well at low sprreds, 25 mph. Have yet to take them on the road at a higher speed.

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Jim
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Old 28-05-09, 06:00
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Default Phase 2 - Week 2

Have started the second phase of the restoration of my F8 by beginning construction of the tool boxes. Have taken a different tack by first making a frame of 1 1/2" steel angle iron and strap to form a more sturdy set of boxes. Below are the pictures of the frame.

Bob, my welder, is going over to the metal supplier tomorrow and pick up a 12 guage sheet of steel for the skin and use their hydraulic shear to cut the pieces needed. They're charging us $50 an hour to use the shear......

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Jim
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