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Commer Q2: Truck, 15-cwt, 4x2, Van
I'm trying to gather some more information on the Commer Q2 15-cwt as used by the RAF during WW2. Here's what I found in Vanderveen's books (text) and the internet (pictures):
6-cyl. 66-bhp engine (own 20.9 hp 3180-cc sv) driving rear wheels via 4-speed gearbox. Hydraulic brakes. Leaf-spring suspension. Tyre size 10.50-16. Wheelbase 120 in. Overall dimensions 189x78x90 in. Weight 5375 lb. Composite construction integral bodywork by Mulliners of Birmingham for RAF, production starting July 1940. Later production had 80-hp 4-litre engine. Several other body styles. Who has handbooks, more historic / technical background, photos? Thanks! Hanno 309_Dunino4.jpg commer q2 17dj.jpg Quote:
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Hanno I have these two photos of Commer 'Vans'. Not sure where I got these from and also not sure if they are the same model as those you pictured.
Commer general-purpose loose tilt vans 1940.jpg Front view of Commer Explosives Vans 1940.jpg
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here is one in the Czech republic
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Cliff, Mike,
Thanks for the input! Could it be the Czech survivor is the one shown in HMVF Forum > Commer Q2 30cwt GS 1939? That thread also shows a picture of a survivor in the UK. - Hanno
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Is this one?
just down the road from my place in Gympie about 12 months ago. Is this one of the same type?
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I believe that theres a similar truck in Bishop Auckland County Durham UK.
Noth East Military Vehicle club member Possibly MVT as well Regards stephen |
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They were marketed here post ww2 and sold through Rootes dealers as a civilian truck . Rather rare as I've never seen one myself, but I've seen pics of them, mostly small trucks with ute type bodies . I think they ran the contemporary Humber 6 side valve motor but I could be wrong I have an article on a restored example here, the owner chose to install a later OHV 4 cyl. motor. Mike
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Commer
Here is the same Commer after the renovation of the forum member Higgins
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Mr Higgins's Commer Q2 30-cwt
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'Tractor, 4x2, Light, 10'0" WB, Type Q2'
Commer Q2 Tractor with a Hawker Tempest on a Queen Mary trailer during the Victory parade in London, 8th june 1946.
This is a Militarised Superpoise, officially known as 'Tractor, 4x2, Light, 10'0" WB, Type Q2', also referred to (by RAF) as '4-ton tractor'. Produced in 1945, chiefly for towing 'Queen Mary' aircraft-transporter semi-trailers. 161578994_10222347221543017_4133486199935280061_o.jpg There is only one known survivor of this type of Tractor. It was last seen for sale in the Netherlands ca. 2016 and has since disappeared off the radar. 97653220_1137357823268091_4324942469759238144_o.jpg 37375880_666695327001012_1123983599809331200_o.jpg
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http://www.military-vehicle-photos.c...number2208.asp
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The webpage Rootes Wartime Vehicle Production has a complete breakdown of all vehicles built by the Rootes group reveals between the outbreak of War to the end of August 1943 6,559 Q2's were delivered. Never realised so many were produced!
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yes can confirm one of these in north-east..belonging to long time North east Military vehicle Club member was recently used in the production of the TV film JOE MADDISONS WAR along with Denny Thompsons 3.7 and AEC Matador...cheers malcolm in a very wet north-northumberland
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I see I made a promise a year ago; will have a look.
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Thanks in advance!
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Commer 15-cwt Load Carrier cumulative delivery total
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Les Freathy wrote on FB:
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Several dozen RAF Commer Q2 Vans lined up for an auction shortly after WW2. Note the lack of tilts.
Picture from Wheels & Tracks magazine no.5. Commer Q2 RAF sale - detail.jpg Commer Q2 RAF sale.jpg
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Although not a 15-cwt truck, it is a Q2 so I thought it appropriate to point out this 30-cwt Commer for sale in the UK:
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Were they used exclusively by the RAF or did the Army get any as suggested by the markings on the example for sale in the UK?
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Mr. Anderson's Commer Q2 30-cwt truck
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50717541_309193893038685_7860229642798497792_n.jpg Also found a picture of this truck dating back to 1994: 6715494161_d1e1bbec94_o(scan de photo 1994).jpg
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Commer Q2 spare parts lists
Some spare parts lists in the IWM cataloque of items:
15 cwt. (6 cylinder) 'Superpoise' ... : spare parts list Quote:
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Instruction book for tractor 4x2 light 10.0 W.B. type 'Q2' Quote:
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Publication NO. 237D
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Type 105 Radio Vehicle
The Commer Q2 "RVT 105" is mentioned here: http://ww2talk.com/index.php?threads...r-force.23810/
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Mr Anderson's Commer Q2 30-cwt
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We will keep at it though, we spent an awful lot if time finding a wartime Commer, we have other Rootes vehicles too, but our aim is to preserve rare Commers and Hillmans of this period. |
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Here’s another photo of your truck taken by Dave Boxall at the Southsea 50th anniversary D-Day show at the end of May 1994. BCE68944-3960-4039-A417-C3EA73767874.jpeg
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