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Old 16-01-07, 01:57
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hi everybody,
Just a quick question here. When talking about Blitzs, what is the difference between a MB-C1 and a MB-C2 manual? I don't know myself, I'm thinking is it year of publication? A revised edition? Or maybe it covers completely different topics?
Can anybody help?
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Old 16-01-07, 02:18
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Default I look forward to comments on this.

Other than the much more dramatic cover on the MB-C2, the contents are very similar. I've always though that the MB-C2 was a way of covering up (only partially successfully) all the errors in the MB-C1.
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Old 16-01-07, 03:54
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Default Re: Question on CMP manuals

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hi everybody,
Just a quick question here. When talking about Blitzs, what is the difference between a MB-C1 and a MB-C2 manual? I don't know myself, I'm thinking is it year of publication? A revised edition? Or maybe it covers completely different topics?
Can anybody help?
The MB-C1 was the first printing of the GM maintenance manual...THe MB-C2 was the final version ,which covered all the stuff in the MB-C1 and later additional information..The last printing was September 1943..
Additional information and modifications came out and went out from the factory to the military in the form of Service Bullitins.THese were distributed to service shops and field units and vehicle and parts depots.The was a series out in 1942 and the final series was in 1943..
THese manuals can be found on my web site...

#3: 300+ pages MB-C2 Maintenance Manual, for GM CMP vehicles. 15 cwt 4x2, 15 cwt. 4x4, 30 cwt 4x4, 3 ton 4x4 HU 4x4, F.A.T. 4x4. Sept. 1943
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#3A 300+ pages GM Service Bulletins Updates for MB-C2(May-November 1943).. ***These bulletins were issued to the field maintenance shops for upgrades to the CMP vehicles.. Many proceedures in the bulletins and additions did not make the maintenance manuals..


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#3B 300+ pages MB-C1 Maintenance Manual For GM CMP vehicles...C-15,C-15A,C-30,C-60S,C-60L,C-GT C-8A Issued April 1942
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Old 16-01-07, 16:08
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Default It depends on the year of vehicle

I have both manuals MB-C1 and MB-C2 there are many differences and I find them both useful particularly as I have 1941 Pattern 12 C60L, 1942 Pattern 13 C60S and a 1945 HUP. Some things are different because of running production changes made through out the period. Having said this if you have a choice I’d go with the later version. But if you really want to understand the Chevy and all the running changes you will enjoy the GM Service Information Bulletin that Alex has. Read through that a you’ll understand the changes on your truck that you may think are post war modifications. My 1941 Pattern 12 had virtually every Service Bulletin modification that would apply, which to me says that most likely was maintain by a energetic motor pool somewhere in Canada through out the war.
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Old 16-01-07, 23:38
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Thanks for the replies so far guys. Very informative.
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Old 17-01-07, 09:15
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If you go to www.canadianregister.co.uk and you can download MBC2 manual.
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Old 17-01-07, 18:23
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If you go to www.canadianregister.co.uk and you can download MBC2 manual.
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Without rehashing the business ethics question..... I have downloaded both the Chev and Ford manuals from the above link and found them very informative. One caveat, there are some letters missing in the sequence of the sections, this may (unconfirmed) mean that the download manuals are not 100% complete. Does anyone know for sure about this?
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Old 18-01-07, 00:27
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The sections of the MBC2 are arranged as ;
A-Model Identification,
B-Driver's Instructions,
C-Lubrication,
D-Wheels,tyres and tyre pump,(tires)
E-Brakes,
F-Front Axle,
G-Steering,
H-Rear axle and drive shaft,
I-Springs & shock absorbers,
J-Frame,
K-Engine,
L-Clutch,
M-Transmission,
N-Transfer case,
O-Winch,
P-Cooling system,
Q-Fuel & exhaust,
R-Electrical,
S-Cab & sheet metal,
T-Maintenance requirements,
U-Specifications & special tool list,
V-Index.

Due to the very long time required to scan each page and produce a section available for download it was thought that only the most popular or useful sections would be prepared.
In the future more sections may be scanned but if any one requires a complete manual they are often seen at militaria stalls and of course from Alex Blair.
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