Australian CMP spare tyre carrier

[Ken Smith]

Good day fellas,

Can anyone tell me what the difference between a 16" tyre carrier and a 20" tyre carrier is please? I mean apart from the fact one holds a 16" and 1 holds a 20" tyre, I have the remains of a couple with differences,and I don't want to put all the effort into rebuilding the wrong one for my C60L.

I am talking about the Australian type with the tyre on one side and the toolbox with POW cans on top on the other side.

Cheers Ken

[hrpearce]

Hi Ken, this is a 16" carrier and so far I have only seen the hinged locking tab on 16" carriers.
Second picture is a 20".

[Ken Smith]

Thanks Robert, that one has small differences to the 3 I have, which are all slightly different to each other. I have never really studied them until now, I had always assumed the tyre carriers were built by Ford or Holden but maybe they were outsourced which allowed little differences to creep in. I haven't even started looking at the differences in toolboxes yet.

I will check and see whether I have any tyre carriers with the hinged locking tab.

On the bright side it looks like there is no right or wrong one, so long as it will take a 20" wheel.

Which brings me to another question I have wanted to ask for a while, is there an Australian parts book that shows the Australian parts for Australian bodies, cabs, modifications and accessories?

Ken

[Ken Smith]

Robert your second photo shows the retaining piece with the screw in he top has an angle bent in the downbars, whereas in the first photo the downbars seem to be straight.

If the photos are of the same carrier then it must be an optical illusion.

Ken

[Darrin Wright]

I have seen the tyre carriers for 16" tyres have a shorter locking arm and the tyre carriers for a 20" have a longer locking arm. Both pivot.

Also earlier tyre carriers have a ladder under the main frame of the assembly, later they discontinued this feature, possibly due to steel shortages or to save steel.

In day light I can take some pics of wheel carrier on my Chev if that helps. It is 1944 or 45, fitted with 20" wheels.

[Ken Smith]

Good day Darrin,

Photo would be good thanks, this is really interesting there are a lot more differences than I thought.

It is funny I have sold 2 mint tyre carrier and tool box setups over the last 30 years, thinking I would never need one, just goes to show. I don't know if they were 16" or 20" though.

The bit about the ladder is good as I saved a ladder out of one of the setups I sold, and I have never seen another ladder since.

My truck is a 1945 Canadian cab 13, with round roof hatch, when the farmer got it from the dealer in 1956 it was fitted with an Australian army drop side wooden body, the whole truck was painted deep bronze green. It had 26,000 miles on it and it now has 36,000 miles on it. The farmer can't remember a spare tyre carrier on the truck, but they put a steel tipping body on the blitz in 1958 and dumped the beautiful wooden body.
Ken

[hrpearce]

Originally Posted by Ken Smith

Robert your second photo shows the retaining piece with the screw in he top has an angle bent in the downbars, whereas in the first photo the downbars seem to be straight.

If the photos are of the same carrier then it must be an optical illusion.

Ken

Ken the first is 16" the second is 20" and it does have a bend and an extra angled bit welded near the hinge that locates it's down position.

[Ken Smith]

Robert, that is good, of course it looks like I will have to bend a down bar as someone has cut one side off to repair something else. I was hoping the 20" would be the straight one, somebody has cut one side off it as well but it would be easier to replicate.

Ken

[lynx42]

Originally Posted by hrpearce

Hi Ken, this is a 16" carrier and so far I have only seen the hinged locking tab on 16" carriers.
Second picture is a 20".

Gee Robert, those bits look familiar. How far have you got with them?
Regards Rick

[hrpearce]

Hi Rick besides getting the threads moving and the old rusted bolt heads out I have only given it a basic clean to identify where repairs are needed.