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07-09-09, 12:33
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CMP Ford V8s
Hello Maple Leaf Up Members,
Since listening to Tony's F60L YouTube first start up I have been doing some research on Ford V8 motors. I like Holdens and Chevys so this is very new territory for me. Normally I stumble with making the "F" word. Anyway during my search I have come across some people saying the CMP Fords had flat head V8s or side Valve V8 are these different motors or the same thing with a different name? Which ton capacity Ford CMPs had the V8 motors like Tony's? Kind Regards Lionel 
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07-09-09, 13:16
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G'day Lionel
Trouble with the 'f' word eh?
It's OK to like Chev's, the Ford guys understand...... Some blokes like blokes too!  Seriously what Robert said is spot on! Obviously the sound is bringing you round! Talk soon, forgive the lateness of my reply on the other thread.
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07-09-09, 13:25
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No worries about the lateness of the reply. Yes the sound is quite a nice one. I nearly bought a 1950 Fordson truck about an hours drive from here late last year because it was going for a good price and it had a V8 in it. It must be something to do with being a petrol head. Trouble is that model Fordson looked squat and ugly - nice engine shame about the face. Kind Regards Lionel
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07-09-09, 13:27
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Gee something simple and clear cut to do with WW II trucks. I am in shock as I am still trying to fill out the basics with my Chevy Holden. Kind Regards Lionel
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07-09-09, 13:28
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The last unanswered part of your question, All Ford CMP's, including Carriers, had the famous side-whacker, the world's first V8! (And, finally....) If you want to make a Ford V8 sound like a chev or holden, simply remove one or two ignition leads... (Had to.... sorry!  )HH
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07-09-09, 13:31
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All Ford CMPs have the sidevalve / flathead V8: 15-cwt, 30-cwt, 60-cwt. Grab the best one you can find to enjoy the unique sound! Hanno
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07-09-09, 13:34
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Pictures
Any Pictures of the Fordson Lionel??
Another thing to note is the side valve V8's come in different sizes. Earlire ones were smaller and generally English Built. One way of telling is the amount of Head studs (bolts) samller engines 21 stud and larger ones 24 stud. I'm pretty sure the CMP's all came with 24 stud engines. If I'm wrong you can be sure there'll be a post after this very quickly! Hopefully with more info for you as well.
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07-09-09, 13:59
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I did not take any photos of the Fordson, however I did a quick google search and came across one - first good photo was of an Army truck! The site also has some technical details about the truck (http://www.armyvehicles.dk/fordthames.htm). There has been one for sale in Just Trucks with a missing left headlight. The one close to home had its right headlight missing. The one for sale in Just Trucks is located in NSW in February was for sale for $500 the truck I looked at was a 1954 Fordson Thames. I have seen NSW Fordson frequently in different issues of Just Trucks. Regards Lionel Last edited by Lionelgee; 07-09-09 at 14:13.
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07-09-09, 14:10
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Kind Regards Lionel
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07-09-09, 14:13
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Trouble is I just got out of the dog house after my last truck purchase - not in too much of a hurry to get back there. Kind Regards Lionel
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07-09-09, 14:23
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Howard, just to clarify what you said. The Ford V8 was the first available to the ordinary motorist in an affordable production car. There had been many makes prior with V8s, but they tended to be expensive luxury makes with limited markets, Cadillacs and the like. There had even been French Renault V8s used in WW1 to power fighter planes. BUT! The Ford was the world's first V8 with a one piece block, the secret to it's affordablity. Took Caddilac 10 years to catch up and Chev more than 20. 
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07-09-09, 14:55
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Hmmmmm...
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I await your  Thanks M8 HH
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07-09-09, 19:38
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Howard,
Check out this link. Although my Canadian friends disparage the fact that these are US-made engines, I doubt if there was much difference if any. Something in the vein of reinventing the wheel..... http://www.vanpeltsales.com/FH_web/f...ifications.htm Regards, Jim
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07-09-09, 21:00
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Or...
Better still swap them around
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08-09-09, 01:21
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In 1942, the Ford 221 (3 1/16 bore) updated the main and rod bearing sizes to be the same as the 99A/29A Mercury, but remained 221ci until the "1946" models were released for the civvy market in late 45. If your engine has a blitz engine number (like 2G1234F, etc), then it has been resleeved down to 3 1/16 for some obscure reason, like road tax, motorsport or availability of pistons! If it has no engine number on the block (remember 'Ol Henry put the number on the gearbox bellhousing!), then your engine is likely a replacement from a Commercial truck or a car.
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08-09-09, 07:02
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