CMP Cab Style Identification

[DarrenCollins]

I'm a new member and CMP owner and I have been directed here to get help to ID my spare cab, I attempted to clean up the ID tag but ended up nearly dissolving it and still cant read all the numbers.
Here are links to the ID Plate & Cab Photos. Tips for cleaning up the plate would be helpful.

https://www.hcvc.com.au/forum/salewa...-blitz-cmp-cab
Plates are at:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/9458...ment&ref=notif

Thanks in advance

[Tony Smith]

Curious that the plates are numbered "44 10193" and "4 410 194". These are the Holden body plates and there is normally only one per vehicle. These are not the Canadian Chassis ID plates, which should also be present on the vehicle. (I've saved the pictures here as photos from external sites often become unaccessible over time).

The Cab is an Australian-made "Sunshine Cab". It looks to be very straight and rust-free, and with a lot of original parts still present. Certainly much better than the average condition you will find other cabs. Is there any remains of a 5 or 6 digit number painted on the flat surfaces in front of the windscreen? This will give the identity of the truck it was originally fitted to.

[DaveBuckle]

Excuse my 'dropping in' - this is number on my sunshine cab (more sunshine than cab) - perhaps Tony can shed some light?
And any significance of the Luftwaffe wingleader stripes under?
DH Cab No.JPG

[Tony Smith]

Originally Posted by DaveBuckle

Excuse my 'dropping in' - this is number on my sunshine cab (more sunshine than cab)

61176 was a C15A AALMG truck (anti-aircraft light machine gun), chassis number 28440023M (assembled in Melbourne)

[DarrenCollins]

Mine has a Number on the cab Tony 996-01. I had no luck tracking it

[DarrenCollins]

Thanks Tony,
Thats a great help for sure. I wish to pressure wash the vehicle to get be able to view numbers/parts better by cannot do that where it is currently resting.

I got these plates on the frame just underneath the bonnet on the drivers side.
I have looked for other numbers but may have missed them.

Just to clarify. The plates are off different cabs but found in the same location.

Are you able to show a picture of where exactly I would find these further numbers you mentioned. Thanks again

[Tony Smith]

Originally Posted by DarrenCollins

Thanks Tony,
Thats a great help for sure. I wish to pressure wash the vehicle to get be able to view numbers/parts better ......

Are you able to show a picture of where exactly I would find these further numbers you mentioned. Thanks again

I'd go easy with the pressure washer The vehicle number will be heavily weathered and easily obliterated. Sometimes the paint itself will already be gone, leaving only a "shadow" of less weathered body colour. Once the number disappears, it's gone. Take the time for a real slow look.

Dave has already shown one example of where to find the ARN (Army Registration Number), on the bonnet. They can also be on the flat panels in front of the windscreen, and on the sides of the cowls.

[DarrenCollins]

I agree about the pressure washer. Its more for the underside cleaning off mud on ball joints and such rather than hitting any of the original paint. I have been told that the colour indicates it was Air force (RAAF) and have not found any reference to the number on the door.
Where specifically would you find the engine number located?
Cheers

[Tony Smith]

Originally Posted by DarrenCollins

I agree about the pressure washer. Its more for the underside cleaning off mud on ball joints and such rather than hitting any of the original paint. I have been told that the colour indicates it was Air force (RAAF) and have not found any reference to the number on the door.
Where specifically would you find the engine number located?
Cheers

If you have numbers on doors too, some pics of those would be good to decipher any numbers.

Paint colour looks like faded Army, there's even remnants of a cam pattern on the RH cowl. The red interior is a "bit different".

The number will be painted on the flat panel in front of the windscreen. In one of the pics you posted, a number is visible, but it cannot be made out because of glare and shadow. A clearer pic will reveal it.

If you have an engine, the engine number will be located on a flat area next to the distributor, towards the rear of the engine

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally Posted by DarrenCollins

Here are links to the ID Plate & Cab Photos. Tips for cleaning up the plate would be helpful.

https://www.hcvc.com.au/forum/salewa...-blitz-cmp-cab

Saving some of the pics here for future reference. The view of the underside is especially helpful.

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[DarrenCollins]

How could you possibly see a number with the sun flare Tony. You are a true Magician. Here is a better pic of the solo cab showing numbers.

spareCab.jpg
http://www.astromech.com.au/spareCab.png

And Now for the tricky one ("4 410 194"):

RAAFcab.jpg
http://www.astromech.com.au/RAAFcab.jpg

Can only see maybe 3 numbers there..

[Tony Smith]

Originally Posted by DarrenCollins

How could you possibly see a number with the sun flare Tony. You are a true Magician. Here is a better pic of the solo cab showing numbers.

The "Spare" or solo cab is certainly an Army cab, not Air Force, and it is neither chassis 193 or 194. The ARN is not entirely legible to me (no magician after all ) but it is 6238x. If I was to hazard a guess I would say the last digit looks more like a 3 or a 4. Anyway, ARNs 62380 to 62389 are all Chev C15 (4x2) AALMG trucks with chassis numbers 2842100361 to ...370. Another clue pointing to it being 62383 is that that truck was disposed of to the Post-Master General's Dept, which would explain the post office red interior of the cab. Note that there is no opening in the cab floor for a Transfer Case lever.

The outline of the square was the location of the Divisional Sign. This would have identified the parent body of the Unit that "owned" the vehicle in service. As you can see it's quite illegible, but the white bar across the top indicates a Corps or Army (meaning an organisational level, not "The Army") unit, rather that a battalion or regiment. Is there a similar square on the RH side with any detail showing? The RH side would have shown the Arm of Service and identified a specific unit.

I've flipped the pic to read it better.

[Tony Smith]

Originally Posted by DarrenCollins

And Now for the tricky one ("4 410 194"):

http://www.astromech.com.au/RAAFcab.jpg

Can only see maybe 3 numbers there..

The numbers painted under the bonnet were an aide to any mechanics servicing the vehicle and would display the model number and year of the vehicle, and sometimes the make of truck. So we would expect to see something like "CVT 8444 1942" or "8421 1942". These numbers do not identify an individual vehicle, only the type. This was an Army practice, not RAAF, so despite the hint of blue paint, this was most likely an Army truck. Does the spare cab have anything similar under the bonnet?

We are sad, sad individuals here, and would like nothing more to see some other pics of this second truck.

[DarrenCollins]

I'll get onto that Tony =)

This first Pic shows the Army Number 996-01

Number.jpg
http://www.astromech.com.au/Number.jpg

This angled pic show the truck with the Number just readable on the roof above the drivers door

frontnside.jpg
http://www.astromech.com.au/frontnside.jpg

Side View from Back

Side.jpg
http://www.astromech.com.au/Side.jpg

Lastly this is my second Blitz I'm debating its future

trucktwo.jpg
http://www.astromech.com.au/trucktwo.jpg

The Cab on its own was part of the package.