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Finally have my Iltis (Ambulance model) plated and on the road, as well as the trailer. I hope to have these at both Coe Hill (Sept 1) and the Gatineau airport (Sept 15) as well as my books available for sale.
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Can you spell hot tub party?
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Oh, so you have a Herman Nelson, as well . . .
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That is a M416 trailer not a M100. The differences are there, but the angular fenders are the first giveaway.
But, that is a surefire great place to lug around cases of Service Pub books and pamphlets!
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Made by Dew Engineering and clearly marked as M101. What is an M416?
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Done, and done.
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Correct paint for a Cdn2 is green only. Camo paint was no longer applicable to the B vehicles from the time of the manufacture of these trailers. Funny how they made the tarps in cammo though.
There are a few corrections to Terry's trailer observations: Quote:
2: The M101 came out in the 50s, and could be ID'd by the early M38A1 style brake handles. The M101a1 came out in the late 60s, early 70s, and had the M151A2 style brake handles. Then there was the MANAC, which came out as a companion for the 5/4 ton with the commercial rims and tires and surge brakes. 3: The M416 was never bought by Canada. It was strictly American and matched the M151 family. 4: The M101Cdn2 was the Iltis trailer which replaced the M100 family. Some well meaning desk in Ottawa gave it that nomenclature which was technically incorrect. As well, M-series numbers are not usually applied to non-US designed equipment. I mentioned to the trailer LCMM back when the Iltis trailer came in that it could lead to confusion when ordering parts, but his reply was that the 3/4 ton trailers were soon leaving service. And they did, a short decade later. |
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Cheers, C
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Those who live by the sword will be shot by those of us who have progressed. - M38A1, 67-07800, ex LETE |
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I know there were some recalls early on for these trailers. The wheel bearings were one of them. These little trailers were neglected in regards to their servicing, especially since there was no recording of their maintenance by CFR, but rather it was by a group EMC for 1/4 ton trailers. As such, it was hard to know when they were repacked last. I got caught by that fact this summer when preparing to go to Huntsville for the convention, and a last minute check revealed a disintegrating bearing. We ended up leaving half a day late so I could get to town and buy bearings and seals. Tip to trailer owners: you cannot judge the condition of the inner bearing by the outer bearing. |
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The M101CDN2 is Canada's version of the US M416 1/4 ton Trailer.
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Ed's comparison to the M416 is somewhat close. The M101Cdn2 was a replacement for the M100. It has no lineage to the M101, which was a 3/4 ton trailer.
The body of the M101Cdn2 is unique. Similar to the stampings of the M100, but with 1/8 plate re-enforcing the corners, and square stock on the upper edge, as opposed to the round edges of the earlier 1/4 ton trailers. The hitch is M416, with two heights that it could be set to. The springs are just commercial, with plastic bushings. They have no comparison with any of the US military trailers. Same with the axles....purely commercial and Canadian. Park brake handles are the late type, as used on M416 and on just about every SMP after the late 60s. |
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Do you have any spare reflectors, including the side ones? Both the green and the black were sprayed. In fact, Don turned the trailer upside down, fixed the springs, wire-brushed the rust away and painted the underside. Then he flipped it upright, removed the rust and painted.
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Rust on a M101Cdn2? They were zeibarted and undercoated. How could they rust?
The problem I have with mine here is that the zeibart from the upper square tubing keeps leaking and covering the corners of my trailer. Aside from the cheap nylon bushings, what goes wrong with the springs? Finally, after 50 years of using truck springs on trailers, they got it right by using trailer springs. And 3000 pound capacity at that. |
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The springs were fine. It was the shackle binding them together that was falling apart.
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Judging by the photographs that I have of this trailer type, the M101CDN2 was originally delivered in the NATO three-colour camouflage as seen in this image taken at CFB Kingston in 1994.
![]() I am not sure when they were repainted to only Canadian green, but I also have images of these trailers in use in Bosnia in 2001 still sporting the NATO camouflage. ![]() I have imagery from 2002 that shows these trailers now painted green only. ![]() I cannot say if they were ever painted white for a UN mission and would be interested to see an image of one so painted. I believe though that, the M101CDN2 Iltis trailers were not painted in the Canadian three-colour camouflage although once again if someone can come up with an image that shows one in CF use so painted, I would be pleased to see it. |
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I bemoan the lack of photos of the CFR plate!
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As I recall, the black "stitching" was an early recall to prevent premature rusting, from the water collecting under the re-enforcing panels. It well could have been in the instructions then to touch up the pain, which by that time would have been the single colour. The 28 that I bought were hardly used and none of them showed any signs of cam. They were in the serial ranges of between 250 or so up to about 750. I'll recheck mine for any signs of cam underneath the green, but I don't believe there was any color but green on them.
The LSVW came out at the same time as these trailers, and were in green only. The HLVW was built around 89/90 if I recall, and they were camo'd. Could be that the 101Cdn2 fell right on the border of the implementation, and the paint scheme was changed during production. |
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