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ANSUL fire extinguishers
Are or were all CF one blue?
What are the red ones? R |
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Hi Robin
The Ansul Extinguisher most commonly used in light CF vehicles is a Model 5 (5lbs) Red Line Cartridge Operated type Extinguisher. These are high pressure extinguishers. The standard units are red in colour. The low Temp ones (-54C -65F) are blue. These extinguishers along with thier brackets are still available new from Ansul. Matthew |
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well, let me ask this then, were there any markings on a CF Ansul that identify them as military?
R |
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Not really no. They were just off the shelf Low Temp Model 5 Extinguishers.
Some may have got stenciled ( in white) while in service. But most I have seen were not Matthew |
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Hi Robin, there is a pletora of info on this subject here on MLU, as I opened up a discussion regarding the subject early last spring.
If you are looking for these, you are better off to find used ones. If they are for display only it doesn't really matter if they are serviceable or not. My local guy here in North Bay can refill them as the company services CFB North Bay... Brand new ones would scare you($$$$$$)
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I've got a red 5 # Ansul mounted in my M38A1CDN3, on the 7077 silver bracket.
That extinguisher fits that bracket which matches up with the mounting holes. The blue ones are common in the blue fleet, LSVWs and MLVWs. Being bigger, I guess that they're 10 #. Yeah, check out Chris's previous thread for more information.
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The blue ones are 5# as well. The red ones were commonly issued with the Iltis, hence the recent availability of red ones.
They are an interesting extinguisher. The top cap comes off (make sure it is discharged first!!!) and inside there is a small CO2 cartridge which supplies propellant to the dry mixture that is inside. Very sturdy construction. Like mentioned above, most professional fire supply companies can recharge them. I am going to have my Ansul done so at least it is functional and not just a decoration.
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No markings, pure COTS. Our local surplus guy --- Wright near Kars had a few in his triwall boxes of surplus stuff last time I visited. There are differences between the wire frames needed for the military purchased ones and the current civilian catalogue. Ebay is not always your friend.
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Pictured below for reference is this fine example of the extinguisher in question. It was in an M38A1 belonging to some old guy that I ran into at the ultimate military vehicle experience in the Ottawa area. I hope this ultimate experience will be repeated again this year and not forced to cancel as before. Bob? The old guy was John or Jan or Jon or something.
Cheers, Barry
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Quote:
.99 cents and $10 shipping. It is identical to one pulled off a 1970 M38A1.
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The Model 7077 Bracket has changed over the years. These extinguishers have been around for decades and have evolved, as was mentioned there is the early style with rounded bottom and the later style with the flat bottom. The old style bracket for the flot bottom captured the bottom of the extinguisher and had the retaining band near the top of the extinguisher it was stopped from sliding out the top by the hanging loop on the extinguiser. The new style bracket has the retaining band on the bottom and captures the extinguisher at the top by the hanging loop.
So there is not a military/civilian bracket but an early/late style bracket the mouning hole locations did not change. Most all of our stuff would have the early style bracket. Unless it was replaced at some point with the newer style. Matthew Last edited by matthewq4b; 27-11-11 at 19:04. |
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Jon, you are there.
Barry
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