Gay rights? Try this in Iraq!

[Keith Webb]

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[Keith Webb]

I found the link to it on the Plane Talk forum which has some funny comments and observations.

[mike mckinley]

hi keith

what a great vehicle for a hard target mike

[alleramilitaria]

this would be a great time to fire off the last PIAT round someone must have hidden away. or maybe just fire a 105mm beehive round to clean the junk off the outside.

[Rich Payne]

"Softskin" doesn't relate to the vehicle, does it ?

Wouldn't they have it on the armour forum because it's not a proper Pink Panther ?

Maaark Your Taarget!

[Norm Cromie (RIP)]

Keith,
Concerning some of the remarks in your thread, come on fellas. This is 2006. I see some of our members claws are showing.

[alleramilitaria]

norm, part of it is that AI is the one sponsoring the tank. more damage has been caused to the legitiment militaries of the USA, CA, AUS, and the UK by that group than all of the iraqi army combined, in both wars.

[Snowtractor]

Originally posted by Norm Cromie
Keith,
Concerning some of the remarks in your thread, come on fellas. This is 2006. I see some of our members claws are showing.

Gotta agree with NOrm, have a good friend who is gay and is without doubt the smartest 'man'/person I know. Has so many letters in front of his name he needs 2 business cards. I won't say I don't get the willies if one of his friends checks me out but what goes on in his bedroom is his business. He calls me "hopelessly heterosexual" and I can live with that moniker. I also won't say I haven't said a disparaging word about gays, but heck I've said a disparaging word just about everything at one time or another. To my shame really. And to those who think only people who are bookworms are gay , my friend used to date a Vancouver Canuck while the Canuck was still in the NHl and was known as lady killer. 10% of the population is gay so you all know someone who is, would you all of a sudden hate them if you found out?
Sean

Originally posted by alleramilitaria
norm, part of it is that AI is the one sponsoring the tank.

What is "AI"???

Just a comment regards the original post by Keith in this thread ... figuring I know Keith pretty well by now I interpretted it to say something along the lines of "Look at the freedoms of expression allowed here and they'd be toast in Iraq ... WOW" ...although I did do doubletakes of the heading and photo as well and thought "yikes ... this could trigger some responses" at first.

I'm sure gay (whatever) and Muslims members / visitors or people who wear or come from families that wear/wore turbans would take some of the comments as putdowns, especially the terms "fag" and "ragheads" elsewhere. This is not an MLU "tone" I'm used to ... big bummer

Karmen.

Originally posted by Snowtractor
He calls me "hopelessly heterosexual" and I can live with that moniker.

Sean

Hopelessly heterosexual ... wow ... then THAT must be how ya begat the wee Shamus then

Ma Yappy

[Keith Webb]

Well, hasn't this stirred the possum, or opossum if you like!

Sorry if it's upsetting some people, but I thought most would have a bit of a chuckle over this one... :love: Is that emoticon two guys I wonder?

Uh-oh... standing by for the incoming

Originally posted by Keith Webb
... :love: Is that emoticon two guys I wonder?

Generic love and affection for any love relationship blends

Originally posted by Keith Webb
Sorry if it's upsetting some people, but I thought most would have a bit of a chuckle over this one

Depends on where people are chuckling from, or whether they're gay and have had to deal with gaybashing personally, as to whether it's "fun" or "bites" I guess? Some parts of this thread really does sound like personal attacks against gays rather than a thread about how gays on a pink tank would be treated in Iraq. The posting of the heading and the picture give me the sensation of waving a red flag in front of a bull though ... but surely I misinterpret in that "sensation"? Do I?

Karmen. (for the record, I'm not gay or half-way gay, and if I were I'd simply tell you all that I am and that's that. )

Today is D-Day anniversary again and thoughts of what that means are in my mind a lot lately, and ...

You know, I'm sitting here wondering how many "gay" sons, daughters, grandchildren of Vets come through MLU full of longing, love and pride, researching the service of their fathers, grandfathers, Uncle's etc where this place is exactly about honouring and preserving the history and honouring those Vets.

I would think that part of honouring our Vets is to also honour and help their descendents who come here to learn about their family soldiers.

Who cares if people are gay, androgenous, neuter, black, red, yellow, white, PC or non-PC, whatever, when in here? It's irrelevant to the purpose of MLU and irrelevant to Vets and I also see insulting descendents as insulting the Vets they've come here to learn about.



Karmen.

[alleramilitaria]

i was not talking about them being gay or not, i dont care about that,,, i was talking about the fact that the tank was sponsored by Amnesty International!!!!! (AI) do i care if someone is gay? not really altho i am NOT a big fan of fring groups having a "look at me im better than you paraid" i dont care if its a gay rights, illeagle imigration, black panther, KKK, etc... i think in todays world where police forces and city budgets are streached to the breaking point why are these people polerizing themselvs. ow well i just really dont like AI.

[Mark W. Tonner]

Hi Keith;

After seeing your post I remembered something that happened in 1980 while the battalion was redeploying back to Canada from Norway. While at sea, the sailors aboard H.M.C.S. **** painted the Recce Platoon Commander's Lynx 'Pink', which went un-noticed by the sea party until the ship docked at Montreal and our vehicles were unloaded for the rail portion of the trip back to London. Where they got or why they had pink paint aboard remains a mystery. Needless to say, when the train arrived in London, sh*t hit the fan. A year later, pink paint could still be found around the edges of the hatches. I remember that the paint was still tacky when the Lynx arrived here in London, I ended up with streaks of pink on my coveralls from the paint. It took awhile for Recce Platoon to live that one down within the battalion.

Cheers

Originally posted by alleramilitaria
i was not talking about them being gay or not, i dont care about that,,, i was talking about the fact that the tank was sponsored by Amnesty International!!!!! (AI) do i care if someone is gay? not really altho i am NOT a big fan of fring groups having a "look at me im better than you paraid" i dont care if its a gay rights, illeagle imigration, black panther, KKK, etc... i think in todays world where police forces and city budgets are streached to the breaking point why are these people polerizing themselvs. ow well i just really dont like AI.

I feel a lot like you and most other people in MLU do about little extremist/activistic groups who poop disturb and want special exclusive treatments at the expense of the rest of folks or who promote that too.

I don't know much about AI's work and ways (thanks for the definition ) as I'm only familiar that they exist and they're something about stopping abusive treatment of people worldwide and a lot of people are peed off with their ways. If they're the force behind painting the tank pink and filling it with gay people as a form of activistic in-your-face-ness, then their styles certainly do more harm than good for "the cause" of gay people just not wanting to be scapegoated for what behaviors a few others do to pee off the rest of society.

I guess when people aren't specific as to what and who they're choked with and why, they come across as making sweeping generalizing statements. I know that lots of times people will make comments that "sound like" generalizing bashing because the speaker didn't add an adjective or two ... but in reality they aren't generalizing or bashing anyone, they just weren't specific enough to be clear about that and someone read it as bashing ... and the poop hits the fan

Talking about extremism groups, especially those who break laws to do their :"special" thing, 2 groups I'd like to see toast are NAMBLA and its female equivalent BUTTERFLY KISSES.

Time for another coffee ... and whats wrong with pink tanks anyways? I think they'd be fun to drive down the highway

[Geoff Winnington-Ball (RIP)]

Originally posted by Vets Dottir
... and whats wrong with pink tanks anyways? I think they'd be fun to drive down the highway

Somehow, for those of us who have worn the uniform, it's a flagrant obscenity. The tools of war, and all they implied, are to be respected for the sacrifice and suffering they represent. This cannot be denied. If the Pink Battalion wants recognicion, then perhaps they should actually form one and stand-to in the face of evil, under fire.

They won't, though.

[Mark W. Tonner]

Originally posted by Vets Dottir
... and whats wrong with pink tanks anyways?

Pssst...... MA .... the photo Keith posted is not of a TANK....... look again. Denise made the same mistake many years ago with an M109.........

Originally posted by Mark W. Tonner
Pssst...... MA .... the photo Keith posted is not of a TANK....... look again. Denise made the same mistake many years ago with an M109.........

Well it sure LOOKS like a mini-TANK to me

If not a tank, what the heck is it then? : Ma

[Mark W. Tonner]

Originally posted by Vets Dottir
If not a tank, what the heck is it then? : Ma

MA ..... lets put your brain to work.......

If I'm not mistaken...... here's a hint...... , Dave Cox use to either drive or crewed one of these during his days with the RA ..........

Originally posted by Mark W. Tonner
MA ..... lets put your brain to work.......

If I'm not mistaken...... here's a hint...... , Dave Cox use to either drive or crew one of these during his days with the RA ..........

Okay, okay already, but will have to figure this out later ... am just heading out the door for my physio appointment (gotta work on my toss skills )

Back later ....

[alleramilitaria]

IF YOU LOOK AT THE SIDE OF THE "TANK" YOU WILL SEE A CANDAL SUROUNDED BY BARBED WIRE, AI.

this orginasition keeps puting the US at the top of the list for the worlds most oprisive governments in the world. they keep siteing the following, leagle gun ownership, state sponsored murder (the death peanality), racial and ethnic unequality (no socialist program), GITMO, detenion of poor missunderstood muslems found on the battlefield shooting at US, NATO, or EU forces. (these people could be leagaly killed as per the genive conv.), most US forces are guilty of commiting war crimes, the bombing of religios places (when used as ammo dumps) . etc

[Keith Webb]

Of course there is also the pink SAS Land-Rover:



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You'd have to be brave to have gone up to a SAS guy on one of those and calling him a pansy.

[Geoff Winnington-Ball (RIP)]

Originally posted by Keith Webb
Of course there is also the pink SAS Land-Rover:

You'd have to be brave to have gone up to a SAS guy on one of those and calling him a pansy.

Whatever my other shortcomings, I sure ain't THAT stupid...

[Snowtractor]

Originally posted by Geoff Winnington-Ball
Whatever my other shortcomings, I sure ain't THAT stupid...

Come on! There you go selling yourself short AGAIN! lmao

Sean

[Rich Payne]

Ever so sorry but I'm feeling politically incorrect again this evening. I don't care what colour anybody paints a vehicle but I followed the other forum links and saw why the perpetrators claim to have been smiling.

Sorry, but if you are prepared to drive along the street while being pleasured by someone who calls himself "Daisy chain face" then you're not keeping it to the bedroom and I think you've got to expect to have the p**s taken.

Anyway, I have a horticultural qualification. I'm allowed to laugh at Uphill Gardeners

Originally posted by Rich Payne

Sorry, but if you are prepared to drive along the street while being pleasured by someone who calls himself "Daisy chain face" then you're not keeping it to the bedroom and I think you've got to expect to have the p**s taken.

Well, hells bells then, THAT I can NOT argue with at'all at'all and wouldn't ... rule number one for those folks then should be , "Well, if you wish to be taken and treated seriously, don't be ridiculous!"

Gawd ... where's my coffee and cigarette!!! What a day this has been so far.

Karmen

[sapper740]

Originally posted by Snowtractor
Gotta agree with NOrm, have a good friend who is gay and is without doubt the smartest 'man'/person I know. Has so many letters in front of his name he needs 2 business cards. I won't say I don't get the willies if one of his friends checks me out but what goes on in his bedroom is his business. He calls me "hopelessly heterosexual" and I can live with that moniker. I also won't say I haven't said a disparaging word about gays, but heck I've said a disparaging word just about everything at one time or another. To my shame really. And to those who think only people who are bookworms are gay , my friend used to date a Vancouver Canuck while the Canuck was still in the NHl and was known as lady killer. 10% of the population is gay so you all know someone who is, would you all of a sudden hate them if you found out?
Sean

Norm, Sean, et al: The one thing that Trudeau had right was that the State had no place in the nation's bedrooms. Quite right. If a man wants to stick his schlong up another man's dirt chute, and risk getting A.I.D.S, Hepatitis, or Gerbil fur up his uretha, that's his business... Just don't ask me to subsidize their nasty habit. And there in lies the rub, no pun intended. As soon as gay marriage is allowed, the spousal benefits follow, at the tax payers expense. The other problem I have with homosexuals, and I knew many in Vancouver, is that they are always wanting acceptance and validation for their choice, hence the Gay Pride parades and groups like A.C.T.U.P.
Gays, do what you want...just stay out of my face and out of my pocket book!


P.S. A Vancouver Canuck that was gay??!! No way!! Glenn Andersen never played for Vancouver!! It isn't Harold Snepts is it?

[Snowtractor]

... truly! I never expected such an attitude from you. But, me being an easy going guy, knock yourself out.
Did you know that there was a time that women were not considered as people?
Then there was a time when women didn't have the vote.
I can introduce you to men who think that these are still bad ideas.
My point is oppression can happen anywhere to anyone, where does it stop. I mean governments waste billions on foreign loans to dictators and billions on forcing english people to try to speak french, and on failing companies that "surprise ,surprise" still fail.
So a few millions for spousal for a small group is nothing.
Let me pose this to you, if you have one child and get benefits for the through your job , do you think its fair that people with 5 children get 5 times the benefits, use 5 times the resources available. Or do you think sinle people should have to pay school tax for people that have children? What if they never have children should they still be forced to pay.
What if we all get to choose what we pay on ? WOuld democracy work then? Hockey gets millions in Government support dollars, far above any other sport. I hate hockey, I would rather my money be spent on Rugby. Bottom line is we are in a large family and we have to share though we don't have to like it. Of course we could ethnic cleanse and have large camps to hold undesirables, until we get tired of paying for guards...
Live and let live. And turn your television off so you don't have to watch it, like the aboriginal awards show....
Sean

ps: decorum in public is what people need, I don't much appreciate hetero couples sucking each others face off or hands up shirts and down pants when I am having my omelette at Humpty's either.