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Old 16-06-21, 18:53
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Default Chevrolet c15a no 12 cab windscreen

Guys,

Does anyone have any experience of restoring the inner windscreen. Most of the rot is in the bottom section where water has sat. The bottom section appears to be folded from one piece of sheet metal and difficult to replicate. I've checked with Stefan he doesn't have any replacements or parts off to cut and stitch in.

I've braced the inner screen to prevent movement but guessing as soon as I have it shot blasted they won't be much left to weld up.

I was wondering whether the whole frame could be re-manufactured from either machined aluminum or steel.

Any one got any good ideas?

Cheers,


Paul
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Old 17-06-21, 02:13
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Paul,

You should check out Phil Waterman's site.....particularly this page:

https://www.canadianmilitarypattern....Windscreen.htm

Cheers,
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Old 17-06-21, 03:01
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There's always a way. One option would be to stabilize the rust and fill with a high impact resin. Another would be to form the pieces a fabricator (or you with a brake) can make and mig weld them together. I had to do this for my 13 cab door stops and it's fussy but works. Some ingenious souls actually make dies and press new parts.
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Old 17-06-21, 11:15
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Old 18-06-21, 19:24
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Thank you gentleman that's all very useful, the video is a must to watch. It's mesmerizing but sadly I don't have the patience nor the equipment!

Before I commit, Phil Waterman's C60L shows a number 12 cab having hinged opening front screen with brackets and knobs much the same as a Jeep. Whilst mine appears to be original, the inner screen is bolted firmly back onto the frame, thus it doesn't open. Is this correct?

I believe my truck to be a very early version as it also has the short fuel filler.

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Paul
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Old 19-06-21, 03:11
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Default Are you sure it is a cab 12????

Could it be a cab 11........

Do you have the data plate???

It is not unusual to have cab 11 and 12 mixed up during the assembly line changes......

Cab 11 did not have a roof hatch...... look and feel under the floor below the hinged door section......do you have a 1/2 steel plate in both corners of the cab that were added as stiffeners....they are cut curved to match the cab floor profile......... also do you have a 5/8 or 3/4 inch reinforcement bar under the hood behind the radiator.... that acts as a stiffener to bring the two sides of the nose together........ rood stiffeners should be the same as found on the inside backwall of your cab......

You may have a cab 11...... some where on the web is a factory assembly line showing a cab 11 rigid frame installed on a cab 12 rood with the rectangular hatch.......

On the windshield frame....... the suggestion of using some epoxy, liquid steel or other filler to add sufficient strength to the frame to use as is..... particularly if you use it bolted to the vertical tube support.

Do you have pictures of the truck's front??? as in do you have air intake vents on each side of the rad???

I am puzzled by the fact that the inside of the roof shows no sheet metal reinforcement rib spot welded in place.....and the trim around the windshield ... the ones that has all the wood screws is different than what I have seen.

On the fuel tank they are the very early models..... scratch the large oval covers to see if they are brass of gray pot metal.

I can tell you from experience that once the tool box is installed you will be hard press to find a service station nozzle that will fit ....... I have resorted to using a 2 foot section of radiator hose....or if lucky find yourself an original "horsecock" flex steel adapter for the 2 gallon POW cans.

You may have a very special truck..... would love to see more pictures of your truck....... as I am currently rebuilding my 2B1 cargo box........good luck.

By now you have guested that I have a cab 11 and a few cab 12 for spare parts......... I found the improvements on the cab12 to be significant enough to add them all to my cab 11. If I cab be of any further assistance just ask away......

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Old 19-06-21, 03:41
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Paul have a look at what Kevin posted.....
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Old 19-06-21, 12:27
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Thank you Bob that's very informative and I appreciate your knowledge.

Yes I have the data plate (see photo) and there is no roof hatch, though can't find any 1/2" steel plate stiffener (albeit I'm not clear what I'm looking for), so again photos for you to examine.

Across the front edge just behind the radiator is a 3/4" bar pulling the corner panels in but the back wall roods appear to be a small hat section. see photo

I'll try to post some more recent pictures of where I'm at with the build.

Thanks,

Paul
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Old 19-06-21, 12:30
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More pics!
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Old 19-06-21, 12:43
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And where I'm at now:
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Old 19-06-21, 13:50
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Bob, I'd be interested to see pics of your 2b1 cargo box as work proceeds. The metal mud guards are missing on mine

I'm just starting to think about how I go about restoring mine.

Cheers,


Paul
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Old 20-06-21, 02:22
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Doesn't the '0' at the beginning of the serial number suggest a 1940 year of production? As in, Paul's truck could have started life as a Cab 11? A fixed windscreen and the absence of those 1/2" plates under the floor suggests this might be the case? I read somewhere that some Cab 11's had Cab 12 front ends fitted later in their service life.....but can't remember where I read this!

Nice work on the truck so far!

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