jeep windshield - need help with a measurement

[Jack Geratic]

Can someone provide the height for the area marked in the photo below. It will help me figure out the dimensions of the markings.

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regards,
Jack

[James P]

At the center line of the windshield it is 6 3/8" for the distance you show. Also feel free to use the "if it looks right it is right" method to make markings.

[Jack Geratic]

Hello James, thanks very much for that measurement.

After sizing things up and calculating, I come up with an AoS marking same height as the value you have provided, (the very top edge looks to be curved over the lip of the window frame section).

For other tactical making, I've gone with 4 and 5/8". That gives a clearance for the top and bottom just a little shy of an inch.

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regards,
Jack

[Eric B]

Here are the measurements

Formation sign
The Formation Signs were located on the front left windshield and left rear bumperette, 7 inches (17.7 cm) wide x 5 1/2 inches (13.8 cm) tall. Originally painted to an aluminum or metal plate, which was attached by bolts, but by 1944 were being produced as a transfer.
Sometimes these were painted on the rear of a trailer in conjunction with the Unit sign. When painted on the rear bumperettes these were 7 x 5 Inches (12.8 x 17.8 cm)
The formation signs when painted on the windshield outer frame were 2 inches (5.1 cm) from the outside edge and flush with the top edge just bellow the glass.

Unit sign
The Unit signs were initially painted on the reverse side of the pass plate and displayed when pass sign was not in use.
The pass plate bracket was attached to the left front bumper and the rear left side of the body.
The Pass plate sign was 8 ½ inches wide x 9 ½ inches (21.6 x 24.5 cm) tall.
In 1942 the unit sign was located on the front right windshield and right rear bumperette. Originally these were painted on an aluminum or metal plate, which was bolted onto the vehicle, or later directly to the vehicle. By 1944 these background colours were available in transfers. When using these transfers, only the numbers were required to be painted.
Sometimes these were painted on the rear of trailers in conjunction with the Formation sign.
When painted on the rear bumperette the size was 5x7 inches (12.8 x 17.8 cm) as it had less surface to use than the front windshield.
The units signs when painted on the windshield outside frame were 2inches (5.1 cm) from the outside edge and flush with the top edge just bellow the glass.
The Unit number was 5 3/4 inches (15.4cm) tall
Artillery units used a 8 x 8 inch (20.3 x 20.3 cm) square

Thanks Eric

[Jack Geratic]

Eric, thank you for the above.

I do have that jeep diagram from the archives, and I agree, that layout appears to be somewhat how this jeep pictured with Worthington, has been painted up.

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Looking at the markings of jeep photos concerning Crerar, I observe two distinctly different heights (and widths) when comparing the unit and formation markings.

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I'll see what I can do to incorporate the 5x7 measurement - it certainly will be imperative for the rear since the surface area is so restrictive. Still though, I don't see the AoS number fitting within the 5x7 as it would drastically change the official proportions - unless there is a typo in the diagram and should read 7x5? Also, if the number is suppose to be 5 3/4 tall, that certainly won't work in the horizontal format.

regards,
Jack

[Ed Storey]

I am curious as to where this thread is leading. Is this a general look at wartime overseas Canadian Jeep markings or a minutia study of the markings on each of the individual Jeeps held by Headquarters 1st Canadian Army?