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Old 30-01-10, 11:23
Roddy de Normann Roddy de Normann is offline
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Default Post-War Ram Kangaroos

Jason -

Interesting post that had me diving into my records...

UK Veh Census numbering changed from the wartime T No series to various Z references (ie ZR, ZT etc) between 1948 & 1950. Tank variants tended to use ZR. I have yet to find exact details of why, how or exactly when...

In 1944/45, a large number of Ram variants were struck off the Canadian Census and were either used on the UK mainland (training) or retained by 21 Army Gp...

Thanks to the Bovy Tank Museum Archives I can give you the following for Ram derivitives retained from the war:

Ram APCs (Mks I & II) -

67 ZR 40 - 69 ZR 17
71 ZR 20 - 72 ZR 00

Ram ARVs (Mk II) -

72 ZR 20 - 72 ZR 56

Ram II GPOs -

72 ZR 68 - 74 ZR 72
75 ZR 00 - 75 ZR 19
75 ZR 23 - 75 ZR 26

Details of 67 ZR 43 in your pic are:

Ex T-40701

Engine No: 124776

Initially listed as in 51 Armd Veh Depot on 4 Feb 53

Struck off Census Return for disposal to TW Ward, Sheffield on 19 Sep 56...

Perhaps more interesting is the wartime history of the same veh...

From Canadian Archives I have been able to put the following together:

CT. 40701 & CT. 40701T

Ram IID Contract CDLV 283

14th & A Sqn, 27th (Canadian) Army Tank Regiments (Calgary Regiment & Sherbrooke Fusiliers Regiment), Central Canadian Stocks & Central British Stocks

27 CAR 6 pdr Main Armament Serial No. L/17341

30 Apr 43 - UK. Veh with 14 CAR & noted in wksps during Comd Changeover Review of Holdings - Regt Papers, Can NA Microfilm T-21673, p.1079 -

20 Jul 43 - UK. Veh noted with A Sqn, 27 CAR & listed in monthly veh returns - Regt War Diary, Can NA Microfilm T-12757 -

1944/45 - Veh struck off strength Canadian Central Stocks to British Stocks - Canadian Archives




Hope this helps

Roddy de Normann
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