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Old 30-10-06, 12:36
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Default Not CKD?

Cliff, I may be totally wrong but the build plate evidence suggests that some CMPs were not CKD. I am on a learning curve here so bear with me please! Compare the data I posted with:


CLEARLY CKD:
38443P00170 ENGINE # PR3,868,029 1 NOVEMBER 1943 [PERTH-ASSEMBLED]
38443M00221 ENGINE # PR3,933,982 [SYDNEY-ASSEMBLED]
38443M00581 ENGINE # PR3,960,523 [MELBOURNE-ASSEMBLED] 4 SEPTEMBER 1944
38443S01471 ENGINE # PR3,914,461 [MELBOURNE-ASSEMBLED]

POSSIBLY SHIPPED COMPLETE:
3844360501 ENGINE # PR3,934,984 E-52-384 [PERTH] OCTOBER 7 1944
3844361290 ENGINE # PR3,946,268 SM-E52-448 SEPTEMBER 22 1944 AUS M [MELBOURNE]
3844361442M ENGINE # PR3,946,252 8 NOVEMBER 1944 [MELBOURNE] SM-E52-448 [WO83S]
3844361308M ENGINE # PR3,94,6264 [MELBOURNE] SM-E52-448 [WO96] 26 SEPTEMBER 1944
3844363565M ENGINE PR3,957,141 [MELBOURNE] SM-E52-448 NOVEMBER 14 1944 AUS M
3844363634 ENGINE # ? [HOLDEN]

Compare build plates:

GENERAL MOTORS OF CANADA
CHASSIS C-60448-M
CAB MODEL 13
CHASSIS SERIAL 3844324971
ENGINE NUMBER PR3940674
ORDER
DATE OF MFG Oct 27 43

HOLDEN-ASSEMBLED:

GENERAL MOTORS OF CANADA LIMITED
CHASSIS MODEL P 106
CAB MODEL [BLANK]
CHASSIS SERIAL 3-8443-60501
ENGINE SERIAL PR3934984
ORDER NO. E-52-384
DATE PF MFG. 10 7 44 [October 7 1944]

GENERAL MOTORS OF CANADA LIMITED
CHASSIS MODEL
CAB MODEL [BLANK]
CHASSIS SERIAL 3-8443-61290
ENGINE SERIAL PR3946268
ORDER NO. E-52-448
DATE PF MFG. 22-09-44 AUS M


HOLDEN-ISSUED [MUST HAVE BEEN ASSEMBLED]:

CHASSIS WO83S
CHASSIS SERIAL 3-8443-61442M
ENGINE NUMBER PR3946252
ORDER S/M SM-E52-448
DATE OF MFG. 8-11-44 AUS M

Note also the '44 Model truck plates have the Canadian DND designation C-60448-L which leads me to query whether despite previous comments, these two trucks were shipped complete after dismantling by Oshawa, and not assembled from kits of components. Note also please that each Holden plant had its own ideas about serial numbers, plant codes, etc. and one plant (cannot recall which one, possibly Brisbane) usually left off its plant code letter.

Otherwise, open to the floor please!

Last edited by David_Hayward (RIP); 30-10-06 at 12:51.
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