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Old 09-09-15, 11:57
Darrin Wright Darrin Wright is offline
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Default some LP1 info etc

This is an interesting and inspirational thread, so thank you to those that have contributed, as I have been thinking how & what I will do regarding my LP1 steering. The chances of finding another hydraulic cylinder to match the item I have; and master cylinders to complete the system will be quite a stretch.

Have attached some pics of the LP1 steering items for reference and comparison to the first post.

Some LP1 facts/history etc (subject to change if someone knows more)
The contract was for 160 LP1 BGC, as 160 Dragon units (power pack units)were ordered from Canada
Only 158 were produced, as hull 159 & 160 were possibly changed/modified for the LP2 assembly line
Hull 144 went to NZ to assist with their BGC production and design
All LP1 BGC were built at Newport Railway Wksp, Melbourne.
LP1 have a large rectangular brass ID plate, riveted to the RHF guard.

There were approx 4 build standards:

Hull 1 to 6 were pre-production models

Hull 7 to approx 56? were early build hulls, very similar to the British vehicles (British BGC/Universal Carrier fuel tank mounting system, 1 elec conduit tube coming out of dash), these vehicles also had a truck tow hitch mounted on a leaf/laminated spring to the rear armour diff shield

Hull 57? to 158 were later built hulls (revised fuel tank mounting very similar to LP2 and 2 elec conduit tubes coming out of dash). No tow hitch; however, around the hull 70s batch there were an unknown quantity of vehicles that had a different tow pintle (similar to the US style with a shaft & spring mount) mounted on a reinforced V frame above the diff.

A quantity were sent to Crete and Nth Africa for duty with Australian forces, half were lost on a ship that was torpedoed. I presume some would have been lost on Crete and others made their way to Africa.
Due to the vehicles being hard on brakes there was a lack of parts to keep them operational, they were deemed as poor/unsuitable and soon became obsolete. I think they were officially deemed obsolete in mid 43.
In 42 or 43 the Army recalled all LP1 to Base Wkps or Bandiana for salvage of parts to keep the LP2 going.
Darwin/7MD were issued 10 vehicles, due to a lack other suitable vehicles the 7MD ignored this order and retained their 10 LP1 BGC until wars end, they were later disposed of at Darwin or Mataranka after the war.

I have been able to account for 17 LP1 left in the world.

That concludes about all I know & have found concerning LP1 history.

Unfortunately there is not much history out there, there are more pics coming available as people look through archives and personal collections come to light.
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128_2874.jpg   128_2878.jpg   Apr 14 2 048.jpg   LP 1 Rear Cylinder 1.jpg   Mar 15 2 204.jpg  

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1943 Ford GPW Jeep "Follow Me"
1943 MBT trailer
1943 Dodge WC-57 Command Car
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1941 LP2 VR 731 Bren Gun Carrier 3" Mortar Carrying

Under restoration:
1940 LP1 Bren Gun Carrier
194? 1 Ton Trl Ben Hur
1942 C15A with sunshine cabin

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