Hey ... I'll have nuvavit at'all dammit and I have a cast iron skillet to enforce that!(sorry Sean)

It really IS frustrating and disheartening.
So much of what this site is all about, and this thread, is why my Uncle and others laid down their lives, whether the individual soldiers understood the REAL VALUE of why they were really there or not, they sacrificed for some of the things we have lost and are about to lose now ... their sacrifices, and ours in losses, are still sacrifices worth doing in order to keep our integrity as a country ... as a realistic thing

I feel for you vets and what you must be feeling and thinking when you're aware of the many ways of why you sacrificed, are sometimes being squandered. I, for one, "get" a lot more of these things than I did when I joined, and I have ALL of you to thank for that (even tho sometimes I want my bliss born of ignorance again)

Don't give up til we're truly done in tho.