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Vets Dottir 28-11-06 12:10

Interesting Photos
 
Good morning,

I found this site searching/googling \ for RWR images (it's one of those insomniac nights and googling on impulse) :) Some interesting photos to scroll down through ...

http://www.w2war.com/bbs/read.php?fid=24&tid=76813

Karmen

Keith Webb 28-11-06 21:11

Well spotted, Yappy!
 
Some amazing pics there, most of which I hadn't seen before.

Check out this Grumman Avenger, obviously still under control by some miracle!

http://www.ww2incolor.com/gallery/al...41_G.sized.jpg

Or this sub in deep sh1t:

http://www.ww2incolor.com/gallery/al...arge.sized.jpg

And is that a Maple Leaf on the Churchill?

http://www.ww2incolor.com/gallery/al...chill_tank.jpg

And that's only the beginning.

Vets Dottir 28-11-06 21:25

I KNEW that YOU would be well-pleased Keith and I'm glad you proved my assumption correct :) Cool!

It's amazing what surprizing things I find when playing with search terms, and especially when I google for images, which I love to do quite often. I'm not a big TV fan so must busy my little mind somehow.

Enjoy!

:smoker:

Yappy

Keith Webb 28-11-06 21:36

Pics
 
Clicking through the links on some photographs shows they've been lifted from http://www.ww2incolor.com which is also a good resource for colour and black and white pictures.

The Japanese site appears to be a modelers forum.

I'm always interested to see new WW2 aircraft and vehicle pics!

Geoff Winnington-Ball (RIP) 28-11-06 22:10

Churchill
 
That's Bert, one of the Calgary Tanks' Dieppe Churchills...

You're right about the Avenger - how that thing is in the air I don't bloody know. The crew must have been shitting themselves all the way back!

Keith Webb 28-11-06 22:12

Avenger
 
Look at the right aileron - he's just managing to hold it with the stick fully over to starboard. Wonder how the landing went!

Looks like a chunk missing behind the turret too. :eek:

Geoff Winnington-Ball (RIP) 28-11-06 22:15

Re: Avenger
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Keith Webb
Look at the right aileron - he's just managing to hold it with the stick fully over to starboard. Wonder how the landing went!

Looks like a chunk missing behind the turret too. :eek:

Yep, sure does. I wonder if he made a deck landing or simply ditched it beside a convenient destroyer.

Alex Blair (RIP) 28-11-06 22:39

Re: Avenger
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Keith Webb
Look at the right aileron - he's just managing to hold it with the stick fully over to starboard. Wonder how the landing went!

Looks like a chunk missing behind the turret too. :eek:

Rudder is completely gone..
And the tip of the prop looks damaged too...
Hope he got down ok..He'd have a story to tell on Friday nights..

Keith Webb 28-11-06 22:49

Rudder
 
The rudder is intact - it's not a wide one as with a Helldiver

Here's a comparison shot:

http://www.maam.org/aircraft/images/TBM_FORMATION.jpg

Don't think the prop is damaged either or the aircraft would have shaken itself to bits. It looks like normal prop blur to me.

Geoff Winnington-Ball (RIP) 28-11-06 23:08

Concur. What kills me is that with the size of the blast that took off most of the wing, the pilot's not full of shrapnel. Might have been the result of a midair?

ErikH 28-11-06 23:54

I've got a Canadian photo gallery online... there are only 100 photos, but I'm working on adding more daily.

Edit: Nearly 400 photos now.

Phil Waterman 29-11-06 00:02

Just for fun e-mail a Navy contact
 
Just for the fun of it I've e-mailed a couple of contacts with US Navy to see if we find out the rest of the story.

If nothing else they should get a kick out of Grumman Avenger photo turning up on a Canadian Military Vehicle web forum.

Alex Blair (RIP) 29-11-06 02:53

Re: Rudder
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Keith Webb
The rudder is intact - it's not a wide one as with a Helldiver

Here's a comparison shot:

http://www.maam.org/aircraft/images/TBM_FORMATION.jpg

Don't think the prop is damaged either or the aircraft would have shaken itself to bits. It looks like normal prop blur to me.

Yep...had a better look here...and the rudder is shown better on this Canadian model...

http://www.airforce.forces.gc.ca/equ...avengera60.jpg

Les Freathy 29-11-06 14:59

Hi Karmen

I clicked on the site access you have put but it displays no page, any reason or ideas
Cheers
Les

Vets Dottir 29-11-06 18:44

Quote:

Originally posted by Les Freathy
Hi Karmen

I clicked on the site access you have put but it displays no page, any reason or ideas
Cheers
Les

Hi Les,

I just checked the link and it appears like their server is down right now ( it's 10:42 Mountain Standard Time where I'm at)
I hope their server gets it fixed soon ;)

Karmen :cheers:

Phil Waterman 15-12-06 20:10

Re: Just for fun e-mail a Navy contact
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Phil Waterman
Just for the fun of it I've e-mailed a couple of contacts with US Navy to see if we find out the rest of the story.

If nothing else they should get a kick out of Grumman Avenger photo turning up on a Canadian Military Vehicle web forum.

Just got this response from the Editor of Naval Aviation News – one of the US Navies in house publications

“We don't normally respond to reference requests, but this has certainly piqued our interest! It is an incredible photo. I have consulted with the Naval Aviation History Office, and although we don't yet have a definitive answer we do have a small bit of information. From the markings on the aircraft, it is TBM or TBF Avenger flying off Bennington (CV 20), mostly likely in late 1944 or early 1945. We will ask one of our volunteers who has specific expertise in this area if he can find additional information, and if we discover additional details we will let you know.

Sincerely,

Wendy Leland
Editor

ref ser 0797”

So even they found it an interesting photo, I’ll post any further responses. If you are interested they have a web site http://www.history.navy.mil/nan/back...backissues.htm which included current and back issues of the magazine going back to 1943. I read these as a kid my father bring them home from work.

Geoff Winnington-Ball (RIP) 15-12-06 21:47

Thanks for that, Phil. Keep us posted. I really would like to know what happened to that aircraft and its crew.

Hanno Spoelstra 15-12-06 22:26

Re: Interesting Photos
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Vets Dottir
I found this site searching/googling \ for RWR images (it's one of those insomniac nights and googling on impulse) :) Some interesting photos to scroll down through ...

http://www.w2war.com/bbs/read.php?fid=24&tid=76813

This is actually a shocking picture . . .

http://www.ww2incolor.com/gallery/al..._188.sized.jpg

Vets Dottir 15-12-06 22:43

Ouch ... well that one hit me in the belly ... :(

Karmen

Norm Cromie (RIP) 18-12-06 07:12

interesting photos
 
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Hi Carman:

Once again you did a great sleuthing job. I went to the sight and low and behold I saw some of my old buddies from the 48th. This picture was taken in Italy. It sure brought back some haunting memories. Sad to say several in this group never made it home.

Vets Dottir 18-12-06 07:37

Hi Norm,

It really is amazing what I come across in my travels through the amazing library we call the internet.

I remember seeing that photo when I looked through that site, and I spent a long time just looking at it. The bits I remember about Italy were about it having been pretty heavy and hard experiences. It must have felt so good to come across the photo of your buddies (it's a great photograph!!!) but hard to remember some of that history even after all of the years ... I can only imagine. :salute:

The previous photo really did hit me in the belly because I was immediately reminded of my Uncle Eddie and the others, about sitting in that field helplessly ... then ... yes. Hanno was correct in commenting that that photo is shocking.

I hope that you're feeling perkier now Norm and please give my hello to Betty :) and I still really enjoy going back and looking at some of the images you've sent me, especially your own!

Carman

David_Hayward (RIP) 18-12-06 11:09

Caption
 
Quote:

Look mate, I said I don't want no smoking in my Jeep!
http://www.ww2incolor.com/gallery/al...jo82.sized.jpg

Tony Smith 18-12-06 13:49

Re: Caption
 
Quote:

Originally posted by David_Hayward
Look mate, I said I don't want no smoking in my Jeep! http://www.ww2incolor.com/gallery/al...jo82.sized.jpg
The possibilities for that one are endless!

"Comrade, Smokeless Ammunition is for the decadent West!"

Ahh, we managed to cross 2000km of the Steppes despite this slipping clutch. You can hardly notice it at all."

Keith Webb 18-12-06 21:38

Caption
 
"Comrade, dis vill fumigate dose pesky lice"

Ryan 18-12-06 23:43

Fantastic site! Still going through it all now.

Hanno Spoelstra 20-01-07 21:34

Re: interesting photos
 
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Quote:

Originally posted by Norm Cromie
Hi Carman:

Once again you did a great sleuthing job. I went to the sight and low and behold I saw some of my old buddies from the 48th. This picture was taken in Italy. It sure brought back some haunting memories. Sad to say several in this group never made it home.

Hi Norm, thanks for telling us. I found the same pic at archives.ca, where it is captioned:

"Lieutenant I. Macdonald (with binoculars) of The 48th Highlanders of Canada preparing to give the order to attack to infantrymen of his platoon, San Leonardo di Ortona, Italy, 10 December 1943

Credit: Lieut. Frederick G. Whitcombe / Canada. Dept. of National Defence / Library and Archives Canada / PA-163411"

Hanno Spoelstra 20-01-07 21:36

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More Highlanders at Ortona . . .

"Privates J. Miller and W.H. Hall, both of The 48th Highlanders of Canada, digging a slit trench during a pause in a German counter-attack, San Leonardo di Ortona, Italy, 10 December 1943

Credit: Lieut. Frederick G. Whitcombe / Canada. Dept. of National Defence / Library and Archives Canada / PA-167658"


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