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Hanno Spoelstra 09-07-06 23:54

CMPs at Overloon, Holland
 
Some pics I took on 2 July of CMP trucks and other Canadian vehicles at the National War and Resistance Museum / Marshall Museum at Overloon, The Netherlands:

http://www.surfacezero.com/g503/data.../imm034_35.jpg

http://www.surfacezero.com/g503/data.../imm032_33.jpg

http://www.surfacezero.com/g503/data.../imm031_32.jpg http://www.surfacezero.com/g503/data.../imm036_37.jpg

See the rest here, more to follow later!

H.

mike mckinley 10-07-06 05:56

hi hanno

those are some great looking vehicles. i noticed that the track on the canadian marked sherman looks like new!! also, i noticed the markings on the cmp's, c60x with u.s. army on bumper, and the f60l with the CZxxxxxxx on the door? small details because to me it's more important they be preserved for future generations rather than rotting in a field. thanks for sharing the pics
:cheers: mike

Hanno Spoelstra 05-08-06 15:15

Re: CMPs at Overloon, Holland
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Hanno Spoelstra
See the rest here, more to follow later!
Some of the new pics added:

http://www.surfacezero.com/g503/data.../imm000_11.jpg

http://www.surfacezero.com/g503/data...imm011_121.jpg

http://www.surfacezero.com/g503/data...imm012_131.jpg

Jan Mostek 05-08-06 17:00

Hi Hanno,
I know that you are especially CMP vehicles enthusiast, but what about other vehicles , which were originally displayed in Zwijndrecht? I am especially interested in Chevy 4x4 earth borer, GMC CCKW bolster truck and, perhaps most of all, Mack NR. Are these vehicles displayed at Overloon after closing the Zwijndrecht collection? I also believe that in the Netherlands there are several more Macks, especially the LMSW wrecker, donīt you know if and where these Heavies are displayed? Maybe there would be more enthusiasts interested in ...

Happy searching, Jan.

Hanno Spoelstra 05-08-06 17:40

Quote:

Originally posted by Jan Mostek
I know that you are especially CMP vehicles enthusiast, but what about other vehicles , which were originally displayed in Zwijndrecht? I am especially interested in Chevy 4x4 earth borer, GMC CCKW bolster truck and, perhaps most of all, Mack NR. Are these vehicles displayed at Overloon after closing the Zwijndrecht collection?
Jan,

As far as I can tell most if not all of the Marshall collection was put on display at Overloon, but this is all I photographed, sorry.

See tanxheaven.com for some excellent Mack pictures.

H.

http://www.surfacezero.com/g503/data.../imm019_20.jpg

Noel Burgess 07-08-06 13:47

C60X with "US Army " on Bumper
 
This also apppears to be fitted with a U.S ST-6 "Shop Van" body which is normally seen on the CCKW. Does anyone know if this was actually done in WWII or is this just more "Museum Licence"?

Hanno Spoelstra 07-08-06 13:56

Re: C60X with "US Army " on Bumper
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Noel Burgess
This also apppears to be fitted with a U.S ST-6 "Shop Van" body which is normally seen on the CCKW. Does anyone know if this was actually done in WWII or is this just more "Museum Licence"?
Most likely the US-built shop van was swapped onto the C60X chassis while in servic with the Dutch Army. Another example are late 13 cab C60's that had been re-bodied with cut down GMC cargo bodies.

http://www.mapleleafup.net/forums/at...=&postid=53627
Linked from Chevrolet C60L with early GS body

The US Army markings are probably due to "Museum Licence" as you suggested. Hey, they can't all be perfect :rolleyes

H.

Alex Blair (RIP) 07-08-06 14:38

Re: Re: C60X with "US Army " on Bumper
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Hanno Spoelstra
http://www.mapleleafup.net/forums/at...=&postid=53627
Linked from Chevrolet C60L with early GS body

I see an F 60 L here...Is the picture or the caption wrong...???

Check the rear end and the grill and Ford badge..
:drunk:

Hanno Spoelstra 10-08-06 16:15

Re: Re: Re: C60X with "US Army " on Bumper
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Alex Blair
I see an F 60 L here...Is the picture or the caption wrong...???

Check the rear end and the grill and Ford badge..

Alex, you're right, that's an F60L. When I posted it in the thread Chevrolet C60L with early GS body, it reminded Pete of ex-Dutch Army C60L's with the same bodies. The pic was used in this thread as an illustration of what the Dutch Army did with your poor old CMPs...;)

H.

Alex Blair (RIP) 10-08-06 17:32

Re: Re: Re: Re: C60X with "US Army " on Bumper
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Hanno Spoelstra
Alex, you're right, that's an F60L. When I posted it in the thread Chevrolet C60L with early GS body, it reminded Pete of ex-Dutch Army C60L's with the same bodies. The pic was used in this thread as an illustration of what the Dutch Army did with your poor old CMPs...;)
Thanks hanno..
Yes I thought I was loosing it ...
The bodies were the same ,no matter what chassis they were mounted on..so they would look the same on a Ford or a Chev...
Budd also made bodies for every thing durring the war and the CCkw bodies by Budd were found on more than one CMP..

Jan Mostek 02-09-06 22:51

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Quote:

Originally posted by Hanno Spoelstra
As far as I can tell most if not all of the Marshall collection was put on display at Overloon, but this is all I photographed, sorry.

See tanxheaven.com for some excellent Mack pictures.

Hi Hanno and other softskine enthusiasts,
I have just returned from Overloon, I could confirm that all vehicles previously shown in Zwijndrecht are shown in Overloon now, see the Big Mack for an examlple. It is probably the best Europian softskines collection now. But, I would have a small remark: Does anybody know if the vehicle markings are really authentic? Some of vehicles seem not to be in original state (f.e. the FWD COE seems to have the Matador body, or the CMP C60X with US workshop body, as already mentioned several times).
Anyway, it is definitely worth of visiting.

Happy searching, :salute: Jan.

Hendrik van Oorspronk 02-09-06 23:27

FWD Matador
 
The FWD does have a matador body, my late father has put it on to it, it was at that moment the best solution to make the vehicle complete. It was sold to the museum of Mr. Reijntjes In Uithuizermeeden who later sold his collection, I beleve 56 trailers of vehicles and pars to the Marchal museum.

Green greetings Hendrik.

PS. The US navy Sterling DDS 235 I sold to the Marchal museum, they restored it from almost zero to I must say perfect in just 3 months.

Jan Mostek 03-09-06 21:46

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Well, the Sterling is really one piece of beauty... (I hope that the CMP enthusiasts will forgive me...) ;)

Happy searching, Jan. :salute:


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