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Konstantin Chernov 24-04-25 16:33

British army trucks of the 30s. Identification
 
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The pictures probably show some maneuvers or training.
1. Thornycroft A3/FB4. Behind them is an Austin 7 passenger car.
2,3. I identify this truck as Guy BAX.
4. The first one on the right is Guy BAX, the third one is Morris Commercial type D. And what is the car between them? In the front, in the center of the frame, there is some kind of massive bracket supporting a spring or wishbones (it is hard to see). It was not possible to find the truck by this design feature.
5. Guy BAX
https://www.stilltimecollection.co.u...ions/Military/ and IWM.

Konstantin Chernov 25-04-25 21:08

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It turns out this is also a Guy truck. Very intricate front suspension :eek:
Military Vehicles Archive Vol.2

Konstantin Chernov 02-05-25 17:15

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The photo shows Crossley IGL trucks. The one on the far left differs in many details: spare wheel mount, rear view mirrors, radiator mask, position of parking lights, etc. According to http://www.crossley-motors.org.uk/hi...IGL3/IGL3.html there were six Crossley IGL models - from the third to the eighth. IGL 6,7 and 8 - forward control, IGL 5 - experimental model. What models are shown in the photo? The one on the far left is IGL 3. And the other two cars? IGL 4?

Konstantin Chernov 16-05-25 19:55

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Mobile workshop. What car chassis is used? I assumed it was a Thornycroft A4, but there are some differences. So I'm not sure.

Konstantin Chernov 17-05-25 21:04

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1. New Zealand Army Mobile Searchlight Unit. What kind of truck is this? A Leyland Retriever? The front wheel has eight mounting points, while Retrievers typically had ten. Or is this an export model?
2.An early New Zealand Army Leyland Retriever. The front wheel clearly shows the 10 mounting points.

Konstantin Chernov 02-06-25 15:31

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Romanian army truck. Looks like a Morris-Commercial, but without the roll bar (sorry, I don't know what this part is called in English) and on narrow wheels. What model could it be? CS11/30 or WD 10/40 ?

David Herbert 02-06-25 16:46

I think the term you are looking for is "radiator guard" ? As you say the Romanian one does look as if it was delivered on much narrower tyres but has been fitted with bigger ones onto the original wheels. It must have been a struggle to fit them as I doubt that the original rims are two piece split rims like the standard WD wheels in your last photo.

You are doing very good work bringing all these photos together in one place. It is a very ignored subject, partly because there are very few of these trucks still in existance. Of course many were lost at Dunkirk and the rest were worked to death.

David

Konstantin Chernov 04-06-25 21:25

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Originally Posted by David Herbert (Post 298836)
I think the term you are looking for is "radiator guard" ?

Hi David.Thanks for your comment.
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Originally Posted by David Herbert (Post 298836)
As you say the Romanian one does look as if it was delivered on much narrower tyres but has been fitted with bigger ones onto the original wheels. It must have been a struggle to fit them as I doubt that the original rims are two piece split rims like the standard WD wheels in your last photo.

I think I made a mistake because of the poor quality of the photo. The "Romanian" truck has exactly the same wheels as the original.
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Originally Posted by David Herbert (Post 298836)
It is a very ignored subject, partly because there are very few of these trucks still in existance.

Oddly enough, there is very little information about English military vehicles. For example, even such a famous vehicle as the Leyland Retriever remains a mystery to me.

Konstantin Chernov 07-06-25 19:06

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I can't figure out what kind of car this is?
Fordson Ten (10НР, Мodel C) with a radiator mask from Fordson Eight (8 НР, Мodel 7 Y)? Inauthentic restoration or was this car produced for the army in this form?
1.Fordson ?
2.Fordson 10HP ( Model CX ) 1934-37.
3.Ford 8HP (Model 7Y) 1937-39.

Konstantin Chernov 13-06-25 12:52

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The logo on the radiator mask is hard to see. It is probably a Crossley. The truck itself is very similar to the Crossley 40/50 HP model 1923 from Vanderveen's reference book (1974 edition).

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Konstantin Chernov 02-07-25 15:26

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1,2. Albion model?

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3. The shape of the hood and radiator mask of these trucks is very close to the A20 model.
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4. On the website https://trucksplanet.com/ru/models/albion-sb24/ these trucks are designated as Albion SB24, which in my opinion is incorrect. Albion SB24 30-cwt from the book by Vanderveen (1974 edition).

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5. Civilian subsidized version of Albion 30-cwt. Probably this is the LB24 model.

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Konstantin Chernov 16-07-25 18:26

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Originally Posted by Konstantin Chernov (Post 298762)
1. New Zealand Army Mobile Searchlight Unit. What kind of truck is this? A Leyland Retriever? The front wheel has eight mounting points, while Retrievers typically had ten. Or is this an export model?

1-3.Photos of a similar truck from different angles.
4.The photo is of very poor quality, but it seems to be the same car with a different body. If the authors of the article are not mistaken, then the mobile searchlight unit (photo from the first message) is made on the Leyland Terrier TSE4 chassis. Classic Military Vehicle №4 2012.

Lang 28-07-25 02:52

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I have just bought a Morris D project to work on for my next expedition.

Konstantin Chernov 29-07-25 13:33

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1) Leyland Terrier. Probably the very first version.
2) Leyland Terrier. Photo from the Internet. This model looks much more impressive. My colleague in automobile history claims that this is a Bull-Terrier.
3) Leyland Terrier from the Vanderveen reference book (1974 edition).
4) Leyland Terrier from the book "British Military Trucks in the Service of the Wehrmacht".
5) Leyland Bull Terrier from the Classic Military Vehicle 2012-04 magazine. According to the author, 120 vehicles of this type were produced.
It remains unclear: which trucks in photos №2, 3 and 4? A late version of the Terrier or a Bull Terrier? Perhaps this question can be answered by "Leyland parts list for chassis no. TSE-5374-5387, model 'Bull-Terrier' " . Unfortunately this book is not publicly available
https://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/i...ect/1500087091


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